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    Computer Input Peripherals

    A good place to review and discuss add-on computer input peripherals.


    I use laptops, and have always used the built-in touchpad with tapping.
    Not all touchpads are created equal, and at times a mouse is desirable.
    I recently purchased an inexpensive, logitech M185 usb optic cordless mouse.
    https://www.walmart.com/ip/Logitech-...Black/16207314
    What I like about it, being small in size, and no drivers required to use it.(not sure if windows needs an additional driver on not)
    You plug in the small usb receiver, turn on the mouse and it works.
    I use linux, and it instantly worked with linux also.
    It works very well, even on the arm of my armchair.
    It has the wheel which makes it easy to scroll up and down the forum page, which is not always optimal with a touchpad.
    BTW the usb receiver, fits neatly in the bottom of the mouse, for storage.
    If you don't have a mouse, or have been wrestling with a corded mouse?
    Give a usb optic mouse a try.
    If you want a similar mouse in a larger size, they make those too.

    If you have any usb cordless mice, or cordless keyboards you want to review, please do that here too.

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    My big concern with cordless mice is always battery life.
    Any idea on how long this one lasts?

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    Not sure on the battery life.
    The product description says 1 year battery life.
    It comes with the one AA battery required to run it.
    Most of us have AA 1.5V batteries laying around.
    We seem to use lots of those here around the house.
    I get hand fatigue using the touchpad, doing repetitive things like solitare, or mahjongg.
    So I fire up the mouse for that.
    The rest of the time I leave the cordless mouse off on my side table, next to my Chair.
    I use the touchpad when typing.
    BTW, when the cordless mouse is on, both the laptop touchpad, and the cordless mouse work at the same time.
    Unless you go to options, and turn off the touchpad. Both being on, I actually like!
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    I prefer a full size mouse, and yes, the little RF ones are great. A tiny little USB plug-in receiver, and the thing just works. I do recommend turning it OFF underneath when you leave teh computer. BAttery life is OK, but turning it off leaves it NOT watching for movement all day long, so better battery life.

    My wife has a smaller version of a lap top she uses, is that a net-book? it has the touch pad. I know we all have different tastes, but I hate it. When I mouse a down and over move to select an area of a schematic, it is simple, on the touch pad, much less so. Plus I all the time find myself inadvertantly brushing the pad with a finger as I type, and it moves the darn cursor. I find the second half of a sentence in the paragraph above. But I am completely sold on the wireless mouse. The receiver only sticks out less than a quarter inch, so I leave it in there on our lap top.

    I could see a mini-mouse being a lot easier to put in your pocket to go travelling.

    I bought a scanner a long time ago, and am glad I did. Now they make scanner/printers, so we have those in the house. And not expensive. So I can scan something into the computer. I can use it as a copier, so it scans and prints a documant, and of course it is a printer. The one we mainly use is WIFI capable, so we need not run wires all over. Our ISP has a WIFI in the modem, and we use it for the lap top and the smaller one. I have a cable to my desk top, but will likely go wifi with that too, once I get it off the coffee table. I like the scanner for scanning commercial schematics to share, but I can also knock out a quick drawing by hand and scan it in to share. And we make copies of receipts and stuff. The wife does secret shopping and has to submit copies of sales slips. Lots of scanner uses. And totally happy for WIFI on the printer. Printer sits in the corner across the room, no cables.

    I used to want a scribble pad - I am sure there is an official name. A surface you can draw on with a stylus or fingernail, and it records teh result. Just like the thing in the checkout lane in the store that you make a signature with a fingernail. I could draw a quick sketch. But now I just scan a drawing.

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    The Logictech is the wireless I use. As I mentioned, it goes to sleep, meaning the LED goes dim, but really, when you are done with your session, flip it over and turn the switch OFF> Battery lasts a long time that way. I used to just leave them on, and battery life was OK, but a lot better if I turn the lights off, so to speak.

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    I'm laptop acclimated, I carried one with my commtech job.
    I've used laptops, since the late 80s.
    Since I used them mobile, I didn't use a mouse, used the touchpad with tapping.
    If you don't use the tapping, a touchpad is a pain and hard to use, because the left and right selectors are harder to push than a regular mouse.
    Tapping makes the built in touchpad fast and easy.
    We have 3 computer stations more or less.
    Sharon has her's on a small cabinet desk in the kitchen.
    I have another laptop on my desk in a back bedroom.
    The main one I use is here in the living room, I set it on the right arm of my recliner.
    This one takes most of the use and abuse. lol
    Our main printer is in the kitchen next to Sharon's computer.
    It is wifi, and we use it from all laptops from all over the house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by g1 View Post
    My big concern with cordless mice is always battery life.
    My concern with cordless mouse, is that I'll lose the dam' thing. Not a problem when the mouse is attached with a leash (cable) to the computer.

    Last time I went to buy a mouse at Staples, I insisted on the wired one. Yes "the", there was only one. The salesman gave me such a face, as if to say "you neanderthal goofus, get with the program!" Yeh I know sonny, I'm not hip enough to keep up with your generation. Now go look at your plastic pocket pal kid, see if you have any new Farcebook friends, that's what's important.

    If I got a wireless mouse, I'd have a fit if I couldn't operate a computer because I was out of AA batteries, or if a battery leaked inside the mouse & kept me offline until I replaced it. Day comes I get one, I won't get one. I'll get two. That's progress, right?

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    Leo, like you said at post end.
    For ten bucks buy two.
    I have multiple laptops with built-in touchpads, so I can get by till I get new AA batteries!

    BTW I still have several corded mice, but they all have ps1 connectors, and don't fit anymore!

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    I am about as non-computer literate as they come, and even I have a backup mouse in the drawer. yes, wireless. I carry a spare guitar cord and a spare strap, why not a spare mouse?

    I guess if you carry the computer around, a mouse is just an extra thing, but I only compute at home, or in the now closed shop.

    I have a ball from an older mouse in my box of odd shit. The hard ball covered with rubber stuff. I have it there to see if people can figure out what it is.

    I learned to type on a typewriter - ask your dad what those are. SO I naturally hit the keys hard. I wear out keyboards. Not only do I wear the paint off the keys - nothing left but Q. Z, and J. But I wear THROUGH the keys. My fingernails slowly eat away the plastic. I have one with a hole all the way through the E and O keys. The local university surplus yard sells used computers and stuff. The hard drives are wiped. They sell perfectly good Dell keyboards for $5. I am using one now. They have a large crate full of wired mice, some were PS connectors, but others are USB, and they were asking like $2.

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    I beat the letter paint off the keyboards too.
    It helps, if you keep your fingernails cut short.
    I don't beat real hard, just lots of it. lol
    If you curve your fingers, and hit on the ends, which I do, it does beat the paint off.
    I also use the indentions on the f and j, that way I can type in the semi dark watching tv, without looking at the keyboard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enzo View Post
    I learned to type on a typewriter - ask your dad what those are. SO I naturally hit the keys hard.
    Me too, in school, but they were all electric. That was almost 40yrs. ago and they frowned on the 'old' mechanical types back then.
    What I really need is a keyboard I can connect to my phone for texting.

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    I also use the indentions on the f and j, that way I can type in the semi dark watching tv, without looking at the keyboard.
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    Well, something new to learn today! Or something I forgot since typing class.

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    Like I said, I've not used a mouse much, I've always used laptop touch pads with tapping.
    Using the 3 button optical scroll mouse, I've been noticing some of the things you can do with it.
    The common stuff, left, right click, & Scroll with the wheel.
    The wheel click, or switch is what I didn't know about.
    In Firefox, hover over a bookmark, or website, and click.
    You get the web site in a new tab.
    Click on a firefox tab at the top, and it closes it out.
    Click on the blank area near the tabs, and it opens a new tab.
    There may be other functions for the scroll click that I haven't discovered yet?
    So far the small opti-mouse, has had good battery life.
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    I'm still trying to figure out how you lose a mouse? Doesn't it stay with the computer that has the USB end inserted? Jeez, reminds me of when my kids used to take the TV remote in the basement. What the hell do you need it down there for? The TV is upstairs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dude View Post
    I'm still trying to figure out how you lose a mouse? Doesn't it stay with the computer that has the USB end inserted?
    Not these new fangled wireless mouses. That's why I insist on a wired one. Heck my fave is an old track ball model. Try to find one of those now, you might as well ask for a stegosaurus steak.

    Jeez, reminds me of when my kids used to take the TV remote in the basement. What the hell do you need it down there for? The TV is upstairs.
    The kids were testing "how remote" the control would work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big_teee View Post
    Not sure on the battery life.
    The product description says 1 year battery life.
    It comes with the one AA battery required to run it.
    Most of us have AA 1.5V batteries laying around.
    We seem to use lots of those here around the house.
    I get hand fatigue using the touchpad, doing repetitive things like solitare, or mahjongg.
    So I fire up the mouse for that.
    The rest of the time I leave the cordless mouse off on my side table, next to my Chair.
    I use the touchpad when typing.
    BTW, when the cordless mouse is on, both the laptop touchpad, and the cordless mouse work at the same time.
    Unless you go to options, and turn off the touchpad. Both being on, I actually like!
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    I wanted to report back on my small cordless mouse.
    I used to turn it off, but because the switch on the rear is recessed, and a bit unhandy to turn on and off all the time?
    Now most of the time I just leave it on.
    I still can get at least 6 months on one 1.5V AA battery.
    Which IMO is amazing, and cheap to use.
    I push it around on the Arm of my recliner, in the TV room.
    I've used it enough that all the printing is rubbed off, and it is smooth and shiny!
    Give one a try, I highly recommend it!
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    I am the original low tech guy, and I love a wireless mouse. I usually have a bunch of AA cells in the drawer, but I now turn it off. I have a couple times flatted the battery when my drawer was empty. But wireless mouse never catches on my shirt cuff, the wire never knocks anything over on my desk or bench

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    I got this Logitech M510 wireless mouse on sale black friday.

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    Unofficial review.
    It has 5 buttons instead of 3 like my smaller M185.
    The additional two buttons are on the left for web pages forward and back.
    It has 2 batteries instead of just the one in the M185.
    It also has a green led on top. Still not sure what the led is telling me, it is on when it wants to.
    I put it on my desk, beside my HP i5 Laptop, in the back bedroom/man-cave.
    Not sure what the battery life will be, especially if I don't turn it off often?
    It works fine, and seems very stable.
    The only questionable dislike, is the two buttons on the side.
    Since I'm left handed, I use the mouse with either hand, the buttons a bit cumbersome left handed.
    If I get any more, I will stick with the 3 button style, instead of the 5 buttons.
    If you only use it right handed it is fine, and the buttons do let you navigate pages back and forth quickly!
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    At work some nimrod bought wireless mice and keyboards for our instrument computers, they are terrible, with a lag and connection issues in the chaos work environment!
    We always want corded units and keep a steady supply as they tend to melt frequently

    On my office computer I inherited a cordless shark fin mouse and like it !
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    Quote Originally Posted by big_teee View Post
    It also has a green led on top. Still not sure what the led is telling me, it is on when it wants to.
    Our logitech has the random green led as well. But it does go red when the battery is low.

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    I use a wireless mouse with the laptop at work. Oddly enough, bluetooth is WAAY better at noise immunity than the USB cable - even with ferrite beads - in the industrial environment we have. Lots of frequency drives and such. I turn the mouse off at the end of the day, even though I've hit the switch so much that it's worn too smooth for finger(nail)s. I use the end of a retractable ball-point pen as a 'special tool'.

    At home I have a wired mouse on the desktop computer, because, well, the computer doesn't move around much and USB mice can be had for free from the right salvage operation. I have a drawer with mice and keyboards all stacked up and waiting to be called into action.

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