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    I picked up a 1965 Gibson GA40T (replaced power transfirmer with one onhand that privides lower B+) with single tone pot ...lacks midrange...bass and treble very clean. Can someone tell me if the circuit design is the reason? If so, can you suggest a component tweak that might ooen up the midranges? Or a total rebuild of the tone stack. Or could the lower B+ be the issue? Thanks.

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  • #2
    Are you playing Fender single coils or Gibson humbuckers through it?

    For what it is worth I have never heard one of those old Gibsons I thought sounded worth a damn.
    Education is what you're left with after you have forgotten what you have learned.

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    • #3
      Enzo thanks for responding. Been testing it with all sorts ofbguitars. Just has a notch that does not enhance the tone to my ears. I have been finding misc anecdotal bits and pieces online about Gibson tube amps...runs the gamut from killer to crap...there is a lot of variation in the designs. I just dont have thebknowledge to analyze the circuit.
      To me it has potential with hand wired chassis to be a great amp once tweaked. Very well built.

      I put in an odd speaker that could be part of the complaint, since the original ceramic jensen was crackling, so need to correct that. I found some tone stack info online and will try to jumper in a few tweaks.

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      • #4
        I do not know that model, but the filters after first triode (220K-220K-500pf and 0.0033) should collaborate with it.

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        • #5
          We have said it a million times - there is no one thing that will have more affect on your tone than the speaker. It might be as simple as a change there.,
          Education is what you're left with after you have forgotten what you have learned.

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          • #6
            Bypass those stupid pi filters and they sound great.

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            • #7
              Won´t talk about taste, to each his own, but those bridged T filters definitely cut midrange.
              Just disconnect one leg of C4 and C9 and test again.
              Juan Manuel Fahey

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              • #8
                Juan, others,

                Thanks. Following that up with a search, it seems Gibson saw the notch as a feature...maybe once I find the appropriate speaker, i will drop in a switch to bring it in or out.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by J M Fahey View Post
                  Won´t talk about taste, to each his own, but those bridged T filters definitely cut midrange.
                  Just disconnect one leg of C4 and C9 and test again.
                  I think that Gibson added the bridged-T filter to their mid-60 amps to make them sound more like the blackface Fenders without having to make major design changes. Before the big EVJ mod craze*** I bought one and rewired it to Gibson Les Paul Jr GA-5 specs... the Gibson amps were selling for $500+. That was cool but I ran across the bridged-T circuit in a friend's amp and added it to my EVJ/GA-5 to make it sound more like a BF than a tweed. As you said to each his own...

                  Someone here suggested interrupting the path of the capacitors to ground with a pot to be able to dial back the effect of the bridged-T filter.

                  Steve A.

                  *** I suspect that I was the only person who modded an Epiphone Valve Jr to get a *cleaner* and less powerful sound from the amp...
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Steve A. View Post
                    Someone here suggested interrupting the path of the capacitors to ground with a pot to be able to dial back the effect of the bridged-T filter.
                    Could have been Fender:

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