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    Double neck Tele body?

    Iíve been considering a project for a while. Thatís why I posted about that cheap clunker double neck earlier. Thought I might just use the body and pickguard. But itís a 12x 6 and probably weighs a ton. What I want to do is build a double neck Tele using some decent old Squier necks and hardware I have laying around. I want to build 6x6 not a 6x12. I also want to put a Strat trem unit in the bottom guitar. The top neck will be for slide. Also.. it needs to be basswood, pine or alder to keep the weight sane. Preferably unfinished. I havenít had much luck sourcing such a body. To have one custom made by Warmoth is a bit ridiculously expensive. Any suggestions?

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    Theres a few on ebay.
    Check this one out!
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/MJT-Officia...-/312377499634

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    Well you could still just buy a couple of junk project or cheapies and kludge together a double neck body. I did this with MSpaint. If you make the cuts right and then glue them together with a long biscuit it'll probably be tough enough to handle what most other guitars can. The first image is the rough glue (and shows where the cuts would be) and the second would be after trimming the between neck bout and the bottom. You would only need a table saw, a barrel sander (or barrel sander bit for a drill if you're good) and a random orbital sander.
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    I was curious how big one of these would have to be, so I did a rough layout on some cardboard, trying to keep the size to a minimum. I ended up with 17" at the lower bout, 13 3/4 at the waist, and 16 at the front. The size doesn't feel awkward when holding the cutout.

    Keep in mind that there is a lot of area that will be covered by pickguard that you can relieve for weight.

    If the top neck is going to be used for slide. It gives you the option of making it any scale length that you want. It wouldn't need a fretboard or a truss rod.

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    I thought about that.. You can get knockoff bodies for $50. But, to get decent neck access the necks are usually staggered if you look at the few real Fender ones made.

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    Thanks T! I searched the sh@t out of eBay and couldn’t find one! Guess you have the magic touch! That one is ash! I wish they would give the weight! Must weigh a ton!

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    You may want to email, or call mark jenny?
    See if they would make you a unpainted body, in the wood of your choice?
    http://www.mjtagedfinishes.com/order2/
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    Quote Originally Posted by big_teee View Post
    They have this too:
    https://www.solomusicgear.com/produc...body-maple-fb/

    Thereís a bunch of these kits out there from various suppliers. I thought about it. Problem is the neck pocket is large for the 12 string neck and I would have to rout it for the Strat trem myself. I guess I could shim and rerout the neck pocket. And the necks arenít staggered. BUT... itís not a lot of money and you get some hardware and a pick guard. I assumed the necks would be garbage, but I have some old Japanese Squier necks like I said. I was thinking of throwing one together. Maybe have $300 in it. If I like it and it doesnít weigh as much as a park bench, then maybe do a decent finish and some better pickups/electronics. They donít like to give you any specs on anything.

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    The one I showed is a double 6 string.
    It has the strat on top though.
    You could make the bottom guitar a 3 pickup.
    I've done that mod a few times.
    Could the 12 string model, head be modified?

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    Quote Originally Posted by big_teee View Post
    The one I showed is a double 6 string.
    It has the strat on top though.
    You could make the bottom guitar a 3 pickup.
    I've done that mod a few times.
    Could the 12 string model, head be modified?
    Anything can be modified. The 12string neck is just wide and I donít expect usable necks at this price point anyway.... at least not usable to me. But Iíve always loved the maple Japanese Squier Tele and Strat necks with the rosewood fretboard.
    If I could keep the beast around 12 lbs it would be great. Hard to tell about these things without the parts in front of you. I did take a chance with my LP Jr and got lucky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by olddawg View Post
    Thanks T! I searched the sh@t out of eBay and couldn’t find one! Guess you have the magic touch! That one is ash! I wish they would give the weight! Must weigh a ton!
    It says swamp ash, which should be a little less weight than alder on average.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helmholtz View Post
    It says swamp ash, which should be a little less weight than alder on average.
    Yeah.. I PMed him. He says its 6.5lbs. That's not too bad. My guess is the total build would be about 12lbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by olddawg View Post
    Yeah.. I PMed him. He says its 6.5lbs. That's not too bad. My guess is the total build would be about 12lbs.
    Like John said, rout some holes in the body, under the pickguard!
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    Quote Originally Posted by big_teee View Post
    Like John said, rout some holes in the body, under the pickguard!
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    Yeah like a “smugglers” Tele. Lol. Or “Mexican chambering”, lol! Honestly 12lbs isn’t bad for a double neck. A heavy LP can weigh that much. Unfortunately I think this body is going to get bid up ridiculously in 6 days. We will see. Shimming and routing a kit is looking more and more likely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by olddawg View Post
    Anything can be modified. The 12string neck is just wide
    A wider neck could be a good thing for slide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tboy View Post
    A wider neck could be a good thing for slide.
    Not the way I do it.. I have smallish hands and do a lot of fretting as well. I just need an open tuning on a normal neck.
    https://www.facebook.com/Ronnieguita...6171389068505/
    I know Johnny Winter used to use a 12 string strung as a 6 string occasionally, or even a 12 string back in the day. Iím getting a bit old and arthritic for that. Lol.

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    And then there’s this:
    https://www.rondomusic.com/product854.html
    Or this:
    https://www.rondomusic.com/product853.html

    They say the 6 and the 12 nut are the same width. Probably 2 Fender necks would fit and the bottom unit could be routed for a Strat trem? A rear cover plate would cover any finish issues on the back?

    Actually... this might be the ticket if it isn’t 3/4 and the body isn’t total crap..no way of knowing:
    https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F273614018056

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    So... I bought this one for $85... Worth a gamble. Probably Chinese. The Maestro brand is really random. I just mostly want the body and maybe the pickguard. This body LOOKED more accurate than the others. I’ll be shimming up a couple of Squier Telecaster necks on it (I’m sure the necks on it are garbage and certainly look strange!) and replacing the hardware with stuff I have laying around. The missing bridge... I have a drop in one (I hope) that takes a full size humbucker. If it sets up works well, I’ll rout the bottom guitar for a Strat Trem eventually. Took a bit of a gamble, but for $85 I won’t bitch. The wife buys shoes for more constantly. I don’t know the body wood. It has a veneer. I’m hoping everything is “Asian Standard” spec and that it doesn’t weigh 20lbs. Can’t beat the price though! Any comments or suggestions welcome. I’m hoping to put together a “usable” double neck FrankenTele for under $400.

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    Can't wait to see the finished product!

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    Something like this eventually but with a Strat Trem... this is Richie Samboraís.

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    Well I got it. Weighs 14.5lbs. Not sure of the wood type... guessing basswood. Appears to be brand new (the protective plastic is still on the pickguard and pickups). Seems that everything is made to Fender Asian spec despite the weird headstocks. Actually.. the 6 string neck is not bad. I was going to throw some Squier necks on it, but I think I may use the 22 fret 6 string Mighty Mites with the rosewood fretboards: https://mightymite.com/product/rosewood-fingerboard-4/
    And since it is missing the bridge already, I’m going to put a full size humbucker knock off bridge in the top guitar since that’s what I have. Might do some clambering under the pickguard. That, the lighter necks, and no 12 string may bring that weight down a bit. That body doesn’t have a mark on it... just dirty. Not a bad start for $85. The electronics are crap of course. Still not sure what that extra toggle switch does? May a kill switch there.

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    Might do some clambering under the pickguard.
    What's that you said?
    Smuggler Special!
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    This is the only real flaw I can find.. but I’ve seen it on USA Fenders before too...

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    Quote Originally Posted by olddawg View Post
    ......Still not sure what that extra toggle switch does? May a kill switch there.
    I wonder if one of the toggles is a pickup switch and the other switches from one neck to the other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dude View Post
    I wonder if one of the toggles is a pickup switch and the other switches from one neck to the other.
    Normally the center switch selects between both pickups on each neck to the switch on the plate. I have no idea what the "horn" switch does. I'll figure it out shortly..
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    Ok.. here is how itís wired.. which is stupid and uses one too many switches. The middle switch is the 3 pickup positions for the top neck. The bottom (horn) switch is the 3 pickup positions for the bottom neck. The ďTele plateĒ switch switches between the 2 necks. Go figure? The pickups themselves donít even seem THAT bad. I mean Iím sure they are modern ceramic magnets and cheap but they are decently made. Probably will squeal like a bitch with any gain though. We will see. Time to order a $15 bridge and decide on necks. Too bad these necks are so ugly and massive, it doesnít play half bad at all and intonates fine. I found the missing 12 string Tele style bridge for $17 on eBay.. I could actually fix it as is. But I want a 6 x 6.

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    It's not nice "piecing" on the top wood, but it looks like tiger striped maple! Are you going to keep it clear or paint it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck H View Post
    It's not nice "piecing" on the top wood, but it looks like tiger striped maple! Are you going to keep it clear or paint it?
    It's laminated with that "tobacco" finish on the top and black on the back. I don't know what the body wood is. It isn't plywood, lol. I'm going to try to keep the original finish. Like I said. It seems to be new. Doesn't have a mark on it. Just heavier than I would prefer.

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ID:	52153Finally getting started on this again. StewMac is having a $30 off sale on necks. So I ordered a Mighty Mite 22 fret rosewood fretboard “Fender Licensed” Tele neck to replace the 12 string neck and 2 Asian Tele bridges from Amazon.. one for a full sized humbucker and one standard modern. Honestly.. the bottom 6 string neck plays just fine. It’s just ugly. Lol! When I get everything working I’ll replace it too to match the top neck... but probably a “V” profile. I don’t know what the trip was with this thing. It’s new except missing the 12 string bridge. Still.. ALL of the electronics will be replaced over time. If it’s a real player it will get matching reproduction waterslides on the headstocks. I still want to rout the bottom guitar for a Strat trem eventually. Lots of posibities. So far I have less than $300 invested in a double neck. I even found the replacement 12 string bridge online for $40... but I don’t want or need a 12 string. I guess I will have 2 good necks for future projects with ugly headstocks. NOW.. I have to figure out where to get a case that potentially cost more than I will have into the whole guitar... been there before!
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    Quote Originally Posted by olddawg View Post
    StewMac is having a $30 off sale on necks. So I ordered a Mighty Mite 22 fret rosewood fretboard “Fender Licensed” Tele neck...
    Is this the neck you're commenting on here?

    Quote Originally Posted by olddawg View Post
    the bottom 6 string neck plays just fine. It’s just ugly. Lol!
    I've wondered about the MM necks. Any comments on their suitability? I'm unclear if these comments are about the stock Asian necks or the replacement.

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    Chuck... I’ll tell you when I get it. Anytime you order a neck from anyone it’s a crap shoot anyway. I could have gotten the 21 fret version from them for $99 this week... probably free shipping too on Amazon Prime. But I got the 22 fret for asthetic reasons more than anything with the fretboard overhanging the neck pocket a bit and is available only direct. These necks are made in Indonesia but are rock maple. I also wanted an Indian Rosewood fretboard. They are licensed by Fender so at least the headstocks are accurate. I’ll order another if I like it. I’ve heard good things about them and the reviews are good. Time will tell. It didn’t break the bank either way. The bridges I bought were cheap. I’m going to put the original pickup in it first. Will have the option to switch to a humbucker if I want. I always seem to have unpredictable issues playing out with any single coil pickups. Just too much ambient noise in most clubs.

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    I helped a friend of my daughter build a franken strat as a school project. He had to report on expenses, difficulty of operations, finishing, assembly, etc. He wasn't finished with the project when he turned in the assignment, but his reporting was good and he received a good grade. We purchased a MM maple/rosewood neck for the project. It was straight with level frets that were very decent in finish. The fingerboard was thin enough that it looked odd to me, but I'm use to more vintage construction. I remember looking it over and thinking it would do the job nicely. But I never did get to actually set up the guitar and play it. That was eight or nine years ago! So I'm looking forward to your report.

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    I ordered one several years ago. Overall it was pretty good for the money. I did dress the frets, and the ends of the frets stuck out a little which I didn't notice at first, so I'm not sure if it came like that or if the wood shrunk after I got it. it's all good now.

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ID:	52177 So the $11 Squier bridge dropped right in. Arrived in one day from Amazon. The original pickup mounted perfectly and the ďthrough bodyĒ holes even lined up. The ďhumbuckerĒ bridge has the same mounting and hole dimensions. The other original hardware looks wierd because it still has the shipping plastics on it. The neck is supposed to come in a couple of days. If it sets up well Iíll order another, similar neck.

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