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    Alligator Skin 1964 Fender Deluxe Reverb

    I just purchased a 1964 Fender Deluxe Reverb. It's covered in Alligator skin. Would this have been done custom at the factory or after market? Also has a black box with a variable resistor added between the speaker output and the speaker. Anyone know what it's for?

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    Can you supply any pics ??

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    Early on Fender sometimes made custom items, like cramming a pair of 12's into a 2x10 box or a piggyback 4x10 tweed Bassman. I kind of doubt a 'gator skin Deluxe was made but who knows. Leo sometimes would have a special item made for his friends in the country & western music field. Sounds like a kool amp anyway.

    That black box is a speaker attenuator. So you can crank up the amp to distortion levels then leak just a bit of it into the speaker. Several companies make these since the 70's up 'til now. And there are lots of custom attenuators too. Plenty of discussions about these on MEF's pages, read up to your heart's content. And welcome aboard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shortcircuit View Post
    Can you supply any pics ??
    I have pics but the forum doesn't give me permission to attach them.

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    Wow! Red alligators... don't see them very often

    I like it, very sharp

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    What a beauty!

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    I can see my wife is already jealous. She just sees me spending time on amps. If it were an alligator jacket or boots for her she'd be in heaven!

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    Very cool!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigerzilly View Post
    I can see my wife is already jealous. She just sees me spending time on amps. If it were an alligator jacket or boots for her she'd be in heaven!
    Better keep an eye out that she doesn't try to 'skin' it then. "Honey, look at the purse I made from that old thing you drug home".

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    Yessir, looks a treat! Reminds me of time I lived in Florida a couple months, near the Miccosukee reservation. Lots of gator skin products at reasonable prices.

    And gator on the menu in many places: eat them before they eat you! Tastes like chicken. Sort of.

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    Proof that there are indeed red alligators.

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    My amp doesn't look nearly as good as that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dude View Post
    Proof that there are indeed red alligators.
    My alligator wants to do a wolf whistle on that one! Hevvins sakes, the things you see in South Dakota...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leo_Gnardo View Post
    the things you see in South Dakota...
    Out in the snow like that with no jacket!

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    I have more pics, but it seems I've reached some limit. I cleaned the alligator skin with a damp cloth then covered it with mink oil. Then I let it sit overnight and wiped it down. It's amazing how good it looks. Now bring over the girl with the alligator outfit so I can shine up her pants!

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    she looks great , how does she sound?? The amp , talk'in about the amp

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    I didnt power it up until I had it apart and on my bench. Did a quick test and it sounded good but had some hum. I ordered new capacitors and tubes. I won't be able to really test the sound until I'm done servicing and reassembling.

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    Still can't post more pics

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    Ok. Got the pictures set up. Here is the cabinet. I did discovered the covering is embroidered leather.
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/146454.../shares/2G3Z0H

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    Pics of chassis and speaker. I added the grounded cord to chassis Otherwise untouched.

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/146454.../shares/30fP2E

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    I've made progress with amp. It does sound good! It's still on the bench until I get the tremolo intensity resolved. I tested it with the wizzer cone speaker. I'm not finding any love for the wizzer. It's buzzes on the low strings. I tried doping the cone perimeter and around the repair area, but not much improvement. I'm ready to ditch the speaker.

    I tried the speaker attenuator. I'm not finding any love for it either. It sounds like a fuzz box with no volume or fullness. I think the amp sounds much better with the amp straight to the speaker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigerzilly View Post
    I've made progress with amp. It does sound good! It's still on the bench until I get the tremolo intensity resolved. I tested it with the wizzer cone speaker. I'm not finding any love for the wizzer. It's buzzes on the low strings. I tried doping the cone perimeter and around the repair area, but not much improvement. I'm ready to ditch the speaker.

    I tried the speaker attenuator. I'm not finding any love for it either. It sounds like a fuzz box with no volume or fullness. I think the amp sounds much better with the amp straight to the speaker.
    Sure looks like a recover job, but looks like they did it pretty well. Obvious stuff is appearance of age of covering compared to chassis, and those staples, etc.

    Definitely a new speaker needed.

    I'd remove that "attenuator", also. Why have something permanent attached that sucks tone? IF you trust the thing, and still wanted to experiment with it sometimes, you could always mount it in a vented (maybe even heat-sinked) enclosure to fiddle around with. But, I'd just get rid of it.

    Those amps are loud enough cranked up to keep up with a small-bar band, but I have a DRRI that couldn't get loud enough "clean" to play some songs on. A different speaker helped a bit, but I couldn't quite keep up with a Hot Rod Deville and a Hot Rod Deluxe when I wanted a good, clean sound, so I had to use another amp.

    I'd just clean up the chassis, do your electronic updates and enjoy it for what it is.

    Good luck,

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    I fixed the weak tremolo by replacing the opto-coupler. Everything in the amp now seems to be in good working order. Nice tone. I orderd a new speaker, a weber 12F150. When the speaker arrives I should be able to get the amp back together. So far I'm liking what I hear.

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    It's a real beauty! Glad to hear that it is sounding good too.

    The Fender factory never used staples to hold coverings down. The aluminium foil top shield is also new to the amp, as the original one was screen material. It all was done professionally though.

    Great amp.

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    The amp is done and all is working well. Attached are pics of the chassis before going back into the cabinet.

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    Pics of the finished amp.

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