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    Markbass Combo II mini CMD 121 P blown speaker

    Hey techs,
    Anyone have experience replacing the neo 12" speaker in this combo? I know that its made by B&C. I've contacted VST which is the exclusive Markbass distributor and warranty service center in USA but they are out of stock and unable to confirm the stock B&C model. The B&C 12CL64 looks exactly like the stock Markbass 12LVY1-8 without the yellow cone and sticker on the magnet. Only person who can answer this at B&C is on vacation so I was hoping that someone here might have experience with this. I've alreeady tried replacing with an Eminence Delta 12A as a quick alternative but the output was reduced and just didn't sound good in that tiny cab. I don't usually like neo speaker and class D amps but this little combo sounds really good but seems to need the exact speaker to make the magic happen.

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    No experience to match. But my go to place for B&C is US Speaker in NJ. Here's a link to their B&C 12" selection:

    http://www.usspeaker.com/B%20&%20C%2...m#12%20WOOFERS

    Al the boss might be of help, if he hasn't clocked out yet for the weekend. Maybe we'll have some better answers soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leo_Gnardo View Post
    No experience to match. But my go to place for B&C is US Speaker in NJ. Here's a link to their B&C 12" selection:

    http://www.usspeaker.com/B%20&%20C%2...m#12%20WOOFERS

    Al the boss might be of help, if he hasn't clocked out yet for the weekend. Maybe we'll have some better answers soon.
    Thanks Leo, I caught him just before he took off for vacation. Very helpful!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 65ampman View Post
    Thanks Leo, I caught him just before he took off for vacation. Very helpful!
    HA! I'll bet he's headed for Fort Myers or thereabouts. A friend of mine is scheduled to meet with him there. Glad it worked out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 65ampman View Post
    Thanks Leo, I caught him just before he took off for vacation. Very helpful!
    Which means????????????????????????

    Which is the regular B&C speaker which fits there instead of the original one?

    As in: "XYZ model is the exact equivalent of original UVW one"

    Thanks.

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    Hey Juan, I gave the exact model # of the original markbass driver and a suspected B&C replacement. Please read my original post. I'm asking if anyone can confirm that this is indeed the same or very close replacement if my wording wasn't clear.

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    Yes, your original post offers a *suspected* solution.

    Your post #3 says the Markus Bass manager is a very helpful guy.

    Nice to know but no new data one way or the other.

    To put it in other words: what does "very helpful" mean?
    Did he confirm B&C 12CL64 is the proper one?
    Did he suggest another?

    The doubt remains .

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    Nothing is certain but Leo's friend Al from usspeaker.com plugged in the cabinet dimensions from the Markbass combo into his modelling program and concluded that the B&C 12CL64 is the closest match from any 12" driver that he stocks or is aware of but he was out of stock. I ordered one from Parts Express and will follow up when I have confirmed that it sounds right .

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    Quote Originally Posted by 65ampman View Post
    Nothing is certain but Leo's friend Al from usspeaker.com plugged in the cabinet dimensions from the Markbass combo into his modelling program and concluded that the B&C 12CL64 is the closest match from any 12" driver that he stocks or is aware of but he was out of stock. I ordered one from Parts Express and will follow up when I have confirmed that it sounds right .
    I'd have to say, that qualifies as very helpful. And in the end, he didn't even make a sale...

    Parts Express is another good outfit, and faster shipping as they'll be closer to you.

    Don't forget, new speakers need a bit of a break in before they deliver full bass. I hope the one you ordered works well for you. Looking forward to the follow up.

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    Just received the new B&C 12CL64. Unfortunately, it is not an exact match. The magnet is slightly smaller and it sounds smaller as well. Not as deep and not quite as efficient/loud in the same cab. Will have to order the original from VST and wait... no idea when they will restock. Every markbass repair is like this. Proprietary parts and little help from distributor.

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