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  • Crate gx-15r - A buzz together with clean sound

    Hello everyone
    Needing help with my Crate gx-15r. It is s making a small buzz together with the clean sound, like a small fuzz. I love the clean sound of this amp, but now it is making me crazy, I have clean all the pots and the circuit board with alcohol isopropyl and also with a cleaner spray for contacts. Could anyone help me with this. Thanks in advance, and there's maybe some mistakes on my english write, sorry about that
    Luis Medeiros

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    Is this a noise that ONLY occurs when you play notes? Or does it sit there making this hum all the time it is turned on?

    If it only occurs while playing, then it suggests a speaker with a rubbing voice coil. Also possible are a cabinet buzz - something is loose and rattles.

    If the buzz is more a hum - sounds like when you touch your guitar cord - then it is electrical. Could be as simple as a loose ground, or could be a problem with the power supply, like a failed filter cap.
    Education is what you're left with after you have forgotten what you have learned.

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    • #3
      If the amp has also a distorted channel always running and just switched out,it can be radiated on top of the clean,in general it should be grounded at some point.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Enzo View Post
        Is this a noise that ONLY occurs when you play notes? Or does it sit there making this hum all the time it is turned on?

        If it only occurs while playing, then it suggests a speaker with a rubbing voice coil. Also possible are a cabinet buzz - something is loose and rattles.

        If the buzz is more a hum - sounds like when you touch your guitar cord - then it is electrical. Could be as simple as a loose ground, or could be a problem with the power supply, like a failed filter cap.
        Hi thanks for your interest and support, the buzz happens only when playing, I ve try allready connected to another speaker wlth the same bad result. The sound seems like I had together the distrocion sound connected in a very low volume. When I don't play even with the guitar connected it doesn't make any open audible noise. Guitar is an used cheap ibanez gio

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Enzo View Post
          Is this a noise that ONLY occurs when you play notes? Or does it sit there making this hum all the time it is turned on?

          If it only occurs while playing, then it suggests a speaker with a rubbing voice coil. Also possible are a cabinet buzz - something is loose and rattles.

          If the buzz is more a hum - sounds like when you touch your guitar cord - then it is electrical. Could be as simple as a loose ground, or could be a problem with the power supply, like a failed filter cap.
          Originally posted by alexradium View Post
          If the amp has also a distorted channel always running and just switched out,it can be radiated on top of the clean,in general it should be grounded at some point.
          Hi thanks, it could be, do you know how I can found that source of distortion, that "shunt" and grounded properly or mute it, even I have to neutralize the distorced channel since I don't use it anyway. Hope you can help
          Luis Medeiros

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          • #6
            If somebody posts the schematic I might find a way to add some extra muting to dirty channel when "Off".
            Juan Manuel Fahey

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            • #7
              Courtesy of a post by nosaj.
              https://music-electronics-forum.com/...7&d=1502246647
              When the going gets weird... The weird turn pro!

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              • #8
                Sir I found the schematic going below thanks for your help

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                • #9
                  Schematic Crate GX-15R

                  Originally posted by Medeiros View Post
                  Sir I found the schematic going below thanks for your help
                  http://music-electronics-forum.com/a...64-24701c4.pdf

                  posted by The Dude


                  http://music-electronics-forum.com/attachments/5546d1245133564-24701c4.pdf
                  Last edited by Medeiros; 09-23-2019, 08:12 PM. Reason: Complete the link of schematic

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                  • #10
                    Thanks Dr.Gonz78

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Medeiros View Post
                      Sir I found the schematic going below thanks for your help
                      Originally posted by DrGonz78 View Post
                      [QUOTE=Medeiros;539758]http://music-electronics-forum.com/a...64-24701c4.pdf

                      posted by The Dude


                      http://music-electronics-forum.com/a...64-24701c4.pdf

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                      • #12
                        Thank you sir

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                        • #13
                          Just checked the schematic.

                          Sadly,in this quite simplified amplifier, switching is not electronic (Fets or transistors) but the simplest mechanical, a plain push switch, thatīs why this amp does not have a footswitch.

                          I suggest you set P1: "Gain" to 0, do you still have the background buzz?
                          Because in that position IC1 pins 7 to 6 gets shorted and that Op Amp section gets fully muted.

                          Try it and post results.

                          If not enough, I can suggest a more drastic lobotomy which mutes it even more, requires desoldering a couple components and you should add a small switch at front or back panel to enable/disable it.

                          But letīs try the above suggestion first.
                          Juan Manuel Fahey

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by J M Fahey View Post
                            Just checked the schematic.

                            Sadly,in this quite simplified amplifier, switching is not electronic (Fets or transistors) but the simplest mechanical, a plain push switch, thatīs why this amp does not have a footswitch.

                            I suggest you set P1: "Gain" to 0, do you still have the background buzz?
                            Because in that position IC1 pins 7 to 6 gets shorted and that Op Amp section gets fully muted.

                            Try it and post results.

                            If not enough, I can suggest a more drastic lobotomy which mutes it even more, requires desoldering a couple components and you should add a small switch at front or back panel to enable/disable it.

                            But letīs try the above suggestion first.
                            Step one without mutilating
                            Results, I turn gain and level to zero.
                            No it sounds good, I thought I've try it before, but of course not,... So sir I really appreciate your help, and all the others advises and detailed lessons from you and the others in this forum thread . Late night I'll be practicing my very very hard Hey bi Jimi, clean loud with reverb. Wish you all the best

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