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    Essential Appliance for the staff of an Equipment Rental Facility

    Having learned my check was ready for pickup, I walked down the street & around the corner to the new building where all of the Rental Equipment, Administration & support staff got moved to (where I do my Loudspeaker Maintenance work). I stopped by our Shipping/Receiving Dept across the street from my shop to see if the replacement Keurig Filter basket assembly had arrived. It did. Excellent.

    I got there, fetched my Director's Guild coffee cup and the bag of freshly ground Espresso beans and head over to the lunch room to install the replacement part of their Keurig B40 Single-Cup Coffee Maker.

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    I found the left-over disposable coffee grounds container still in the machine, and removed/tossed it into the trash. Then, I worked the damaged Filter Basket/needle assembly out of the machine, and installed the new one that I bought on ebay for $7. I tried the Keurig web site, but their solution to a broken needle in the basket assembly is to buy a brand new coffee maker. The American Way.

    Put the new assembly in, then went to find where my reusable filter basket had been moved to. It had been sitting in the clear plastic package for all to use. The first time I left that $6 reusable coffee filter basket for others to use with their beverage grinds, someone installed it into the basket the way THEY wanted it to go in, and not only would the lid of the machine not close, but it bent the piercing needle in the basket over, disabling the machine. I managed to straighten it that first time. Days later, either the same bright person (or someone else) did the same thing and again, the machine was unable to make coffee, and now, the entire machine had been removed from the counter! I inquired, was told by one person it was broken and thrown away, but someone of higher intelligence led me to find it sitting on top of the refrigerator. So, I brought it back down, again straightened the bent-over needle without it breaking off, and was able to make coffee again.

    That reusable filter basket has reliefs in both the front and rear of the plastic basket, along with a flat across the back of the container, which allows the piecing needle in the top half of the machine to miss bending that needle on the top of the lid, and the relief likewise prevents bending the needle in the bottom. So, this time, I put some gaffer's tape on the machines' lid that you raise to insert the coffee module, with instructions HOW to install the reusable basket, and a warning of the results for not following instructions.

    So, the new part arrived, and my reusable basket is now gone, altogether! No doubt someone used it, and did the sensible thing when they were thru.....throw the part with the wet grinds into the trash. What could be simpler? So much for getting a fresh cup of coffee over there.

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    I have a problem with those single cup coffee makers with all the trash they cause. A disposable container for every cup of coffee just seems wrong to me.

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    It's weird, because it WAS working fine.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randall View Post
    I have a problem with those single cup coffee makers with all the trash they cause. A disposable container for every cup of coffee just seems wrong to me.
    How about when they bag items at the grocery store that have a handle?

    But all in all you can't change anyone's mind on what they want or how they choose to spend their money. We do what we want to do, cuz we adults now ain't we?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randall View Post
    I have a problem with those single cup coffee makers with all the trash they cause. A disposable container for every cup of coffee just seems wrong to me.
    I've never stopped to talley up what it costs for a cup of coffee using those pre-packaged disposable containers vs ground coffee, or beans & grind them as needed, which is what I do. I'm sure those 'convenient' disposable ones raise the cost for a cup of coffee somewhere like buying coffee at Starbucks. No thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nosaj View Post
    How about when they bag items at the grocery store that have a handle? nosaj
    When I catch a check-out clerk grab the 1 gal jug of water with the molded handle and try and slip it into a plastic bag, I just eyeball them and ask what it is they think they're doing? Is that how YOU take these home with you? Or do you ALSO use the product's molded handle like you're supposed to? We know intelligence tests are NOT given to these people when being hired. Probably some law against that......discrimination for being stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nevetslab View Post
    When I catch a check-out clerk grab the 1 gal jug of water with the molded handle and try and slip it into a plastic bag, I just eyeball them and ask what it is they think they're doing?
    I'm with ya Nevets. I tell 'em "just put a sticker on it" and they'll do that at stores that sticker items too big to bag. Other stores don't use sticker but apparently trust that I'm not gonna shoplift gallons of water. Since Jan 1 some counties in NY have outlawed the single use plastic bags entirely, and soon it looks like that will be a state wide law. Thank the Republic of Ireland for starting the trend - they got sick of seeing what folks were calling "Irish pennants," zillions of those bags flapping in the wind, stuck in tree and shrubbery branches. That was all about 15 years ago, and there was a hue & cry at first as you might expect. But people settled down, got a couple of reusable canvas bags each & now the countryside is looking a lot cleaner. It's important for a country that depends a lot on tourism, "we mustn't be looking shabby now boyo." We should praise the Irish for setting a good example. I'm surprised the ever-so-trendy-and-politically-correct Peoples Republic of California hasn't yet gotten up to speed on this.

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    If I'm going to make coffee, I'll just make a pot. I never drink just one cup anyway. Phhooey on those "one cuppers".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leo_Gnardo View Post
    I'm with ya Nevets. I tell 'em "just put a sticker on it" and they'll do that at stores that sticker items too big to bag. Other stores don't use sticker but apparently trust that I'm not gonna shoplift gallons of water. Since Jan 1 some counties in NY have outlawed the single use plastic bags entirely, and soon it looks like that will be a state wide law. Thank the Republic of Ireland for starting the trend - they got sick of seeing what folks were calling "Irish pennants," zillions of those bags flapping in the wind, stuck in tree and shrubbery branches. That was all about 15 years ago, and there was a hue & cry at first as you might expect. But people settled down, got a couple of reusable canvas bags each & now the countryside is looking a lot cleaner. It's important for a country that depends a lot on tourism, "we mustn't be looking shabby now boyo." We should praise the Irish for setting a good example. I'm surprised the ever-so-trendy-and-politically-correct Peoples Republic of California hasn't yet gotten up to speed on this.
    You have any of these bags?
    https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt...bags-backfired
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dude View Post
    If I'm going to make coffee, I'll just make a pot. I never drink just one cup anyway. Phhooey on those "one cuppers".
    Me too. I can fill my mega-mug 3 times from a 12 cup pot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dude View Post
    If I'm going to make coffee, I'll just make a pot. I never drink just one cup anyway. Phhooey on those "one cuppers".
    That's what I do in the shop. Cheap & maintained $20 Hamilton-Beech coffee maker, Krups bean grinder, and Trader Joes Five Countries Espresso Beans. But, at the other building, somebody else is using cheap terrible-tasting coffee, so I keep Espresso on hand and use that Keurig machine with the reusable filter. Now just have to go buy another filter since the one I had provided/used is now who-knows-where.

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    Quote Originally Posted by g1 View Post
    Me too. I can fill my mega-mug 3 times from a 12 cup pot.
    I rarely get more than a few sips from my freshly-poured Espresso (not brewed to real Espresso density....just like it as a rich flavored coffee), and invariably, what has gotten cold or luke warm gets poured back into the pot and a fresh half-cup is poured again. 7 cups in the pot lasts me all day.

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    It's hard to chug hot coffee. Maybe that's why I drink so much, I don't mind it cold at all. Especially in the summer.
    First couple cups in the day have got to be hot though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nevetslab View Post
    ...... (not brewed to real Espresso density....just like it as a rich flavored coffee)......
    That's the same thing I do. It's just a bit "stouter" than your normal coffe. I also grind my own beans. My brother is also a coffee lover and he's been buying un-roasted beans and roasting them in an air popper. I have yet to try it myself, but I can only imagine how fresh it must be.

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    I can't over-emphasize how good chocolate covered espresso beans are either (in case of emergency water outage).
    Be prepared!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nosaj View Post
    You have any of these bags?
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    Naah, none of those, although I appreciate the vendor's humor! FWIW I do have a small stash of the now outlawed single use bags. They make excellent trash bin liners for my kitchen. I'll be in a pickle when I finally do run out. Maybe have to import some from Kall-i-FOR-nya (Gov. Schwarzenegger's pronunciation always amused me.) And another FWIW, it's March 1 that the statewide ban starts in NY.

    Couple of years ago, one grocery chain (Hannaford) did a solid favor for their customers - gave away a nice canvas reusable bag if you bought some item that was on special. In my case it was chicken. No big deal, but that bag is still in use now and must have eliminated a couple hundred plastic bags from the waste stream by now. Currently they have similar bags but charge $5 for one, OW! If you want to get (sort of) gratis canvas bags, another way is to contribute to your local public radio station. That one has become a long running meme over the last 30 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dude View Post
    If I'm going to make coffee, I'll just make a pot. I never drink just one cup anyway. Phhooey on those "one cuppers".
    Right? I don't really drink coffee because I love the taste. I drink it for the legal speed rush. One cup of coffee is for little old ladies. My "one cup" is actually like four cups, and I fill it two or three times.

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    On the subject of redundant packaging, and somewhat more related to the forums genre I've asked Mouser several times to omit as much of their secondary packaging as practical. They never have. Every time I get a $70 to $100 order of ten of this and six of that it looks like a plastic bag factory blew up in my shop.

    Regarding getting a decent cup O. I've been through a lot of incarnations of the counter top coffee shuffle...

    My favorite cup of coffee was the machine that grinds the coffee beans and then brews them fresh for each pot. But that ones a mess because you do have to load and reload, brush some surfaces clean for new operation, etc. and ground coffee would eventually get all over the place unless you clean the coffee station with every pot. Plus the standard kitchen models really don't last long enough from an economical standpoint (the grinders wear out prematurely, insufficient metal).

    For awhile we just ground out own beans fresh for each pot and used the regular, decent quality Krups or Bunn machine. Same trouble with the ground beans mess. Plus the extra time and trouble before you had your first cup of coffee!

    Did the Keurig thing on the wife's whimsy. I didn't like it for the same reasons as Randall. Plus the added expense and limitations of "coffee pod" availability.

    The machine we have now is pretty nifty. It keeps a store of hot water. When you pour in your water and drop the lid it dispenses the already hot water and adds your new water to be heated for the next pot. It's FAST!!! Coffee is brewed in about a minute. What's best about this is coffee likes to be brewed at about this speed for best flavor. Makers that sputter the water out as it heats create a longer brewing process and extract some of the yuckier alkaloids. Ok, but, it takes a lot of energy to keep a small tub of water hot all day and night. The wife likes it though so that's what we do.

    I, personally, have never had a problem with the slightly slower brew from regular coffee makers. That said, it's actually hard to do better for value than the plain ol Mr. Coffee machines. I've seen them last as long ot longer than much more expensive machines many times. And considering that all the non heated counter top machines brew by the same process, what's the advantage to the more expensive machines? This said, I can still get behind buying quality if you're pushing it to the max. Like a Bunn machine that borders on "industrial kitchen" status and is going to literally last a lifetime with parts available for servicing. Or if one just wants an appliance made anywhere other than China so the overseas manufacturing machine isn't being fed.

    All this for your consideration. But the one thing the wife and I picked up that I consider a real must have is a valved coffee canister. I don't know if ours is THIS one, but it looks just the same and I'm sure all of the brands use the same valve method.

    https://www.amazon.com/Canister-Airt...a-850317427918

    It actually does keep coffee fresher than just keeping it in the bag or original can It's supposed to be better than a clamp lid jar because of the valve system. I believe it. The large opening also makes it easier to stay tidy when scooping from the canister to the coffee basket. Now I can buy decent quality ground beans AND have a fresher cup of coffee too. Grinding fresh is still better, but this canister is VERY practical and effective if you're not going to fuss with that.

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