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    Smile DeArmond Rowe Pickup Rewind ?

    Hello Pickup-Winders,
    I got this Dearmond pickup for repair.Do you guys have any info on DC-Resistance,windings and wire gauge?

    Thanks

    David
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    That's a Model 1000 Rhythm Chief. I don't know the specs though, but I had one a long time ago. Mine eventually broke when it unglued itself. All I remember is it had really thin wire. Great sounding pickup.

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    Here's a thread from the old pickup makers forum

    http://archive.ampage.org/threads/6/...pickups-1.html

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    Try these guys :

    http://www.archtop.com/ac_access.html

    I can't find my notes on these so I'd suggest you get in touch with them.

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    Smile ThANKS !

    Thank you Sirs,
    what I read in the old forum scares me a bit but I have to unwind it to get behind the secret.
    A NICE WEEK TO ALL OF YOU PICKUP-SPINNERS !
    Cheers
    david

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    44AWG wound to 7.4 K Ohms, A2 magnet.

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    Smile

    Thank a lot Spencer,
    I hope I can rewind it this weekend.

    david

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    Let me know how you get on the David.

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    Wink Deep down into the pain !

    Hello Spence ,
    here is an update :
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    Cool!

    So they really did wind around 4 magnets...

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    Smile Just Rewound it !

    .............yes David,now I know why nobody is a fan of those to rewind. here is another shot :

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    Glue in the 2nd part of the bobbin:

    Thanks for helping me trough this !
    cheers
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    Thats so cool! Did you take measurements of everything?

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    Do you know what make and value the pots were, and what size the cap was?

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    ....

    Can you tell me the height of the magnets and diameters of the fat magnets and the skinny magnets?
    Harry DeArmond was a genius pickup designer, who would have ever thought of such an idea? Very cool design....

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    Sorry Folks,
    I made notes and I will post soon.I have the control box here and I will check it for you Dave.
    The pickupcoil is wound but I am not finished because the owner is not under pressure............
    Cheers
    david

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    Any ideas on the approx wind count for the inner vs outer portion?

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    ...

    Yean would love to know the value of the pot, and if you have a guassmeter readings off the magnets would be useful. I always wondered what was under the hood on those pickups and never was able to find the patent number for it.

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    don't the other 2 poles suffer tone or volume loss as a result of no wire being round them, or is that wire around each pole?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarryNight View Post
    don't the other 2 poles suffer tone or volume loss as a result of no wire being round them, or is that wire around each pole?
    Well my take on it is that some wire is wrapped around the bottom 4 strings, then the other two pole pieces are inserted and the remainder of the coil wrapped.

    My gut tells me the purpose was to soften the B & E string by having less of the coil around them. I would further guess that this started with the non-adjustable pole piece 1000 model, then when they moved to the 1100 that they didnt stop the procedure even though they could now adjust the pole piece to get a similar effect.

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