Cab Design: Avatar 2x12 w/ Greenbacks: Way Too Boomy!

[meekofnature]

This is years later... But I have the EXACT same issue with my 2x12 avatar cab. Extremely boomy, low end is muddy and unusable. Same thing when I turn the amp up, horrible harsh sound on the high notes as you described. I've got different speakers than you- so it really has to be the cab, as I've tried swapping everything else. Did you ever make anymore sense out of this?

[J M Fahey]

Reading the whole thread, it's apparent to me that if you are used to an EV type sound, just go for EVs (or maybe some of the Eminence "Greek" equivalents, Greek meaning Alpha, Beta, Gamma, etc.)
VERY different to standard guitar speakers and nothing you do to these will turn them into EV types, VERY different design and construction concepts.

One impossible to solve parameter, no matter how much you age, coat, soften,break them, is total Q.
HiFi/PA big magnet speakers sport values between 0.35 to 0.45 ,small magnet small coil hard undamped guitar ones are way above 1 (and up to 1.45 to 1.60) , Worlds apart.

Edgewound aluminum voice coils are worlds apart from round copper ones

Curvilinear heavy damped low flexing cones are worlds apart from thin undamped cardboard ribbed designed-TO-breakup guitar cones.

As you see, they are different on all accounts.

[TomCarlos]

Another 2014 reply !!!!

I was pondering getting an empty cabinet for my Eminence Patriot Red, White, and Blues - 2x12. I've been running some "Wanted" ads on Craigslist but no luck in finding something. I saw the Avatars and then came upon this thread. So thanks to Bob P for the original post. This has been good reading- I appreciate the replies.

I just need something for my two 12's. I have a Fender Stage 100 head. Not a bad sounding amp, it's got some "umph." So the Avatar G212H Premier Traditional cab looks like an option. But, $299 ... for an empty cab... hmmm. Any other options out there?

[J M Fahey]

A short trip to the lumbermill with $40 in hand and build your own?

You know you don´t *need* to Tolex them or any fancy thing, just some strong front grill , a strip handle and *maybe* wheels.

I used to low cost rent amps to "working" musicians who travelled light (basically just the instrument case and a few pedals or a Pod in a small backpack) and after suffering nice equipment being torn to ribbons I decided to build new, simple cabinets and just paint them with black Sherwin Williams Loxon, which is a tough black paint meant to paint *outdoors* walls and similar stuff, which is water based (no smell, easy to clean tools, dries in minutes, inexpensive).

2 advantages:
1) when onstage , under stage lighting and to boot seen through some kind of smoke or another, looks exactly the same as a Tolexed cabinet.
2) when cabinet arrives with a completely scratched side (pushed along a wall), or a deep slot carved by a pointy metal object in the van or with an edge smashed hard against a concrete column , I open the can, brush over the war scars, and in 30 minutes it´s as good as new (seen under poor light from a few yards away)

EDIT: just checked and looks like in the USA they are only making the uncoloured masonry/concrete protecting type (yes, it is THAT tough)
LoxonŽ Professional Products - Sherwin-Williams
but I´m sure if you ask for a "black paint version" of Loxon or a similar product they´ll suggest you some.