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Im playing in a trio (no drums, i provide bass ) using a Epiphone ES295 big hollowbody through a Fender Vibroverb 63 ri (brownface). The amp is great for my tele and strat but not so good for my hollowbody Casino or ES295. I was previously looking for a blackface Deluxe reverb. All i need is around 20 Watts clean power. I do like output powertubes for their sound but am not wedded to the tube preamps. Could be SS driven(Mosfet?). I know Fender used that setup in his Musicman amps.They did sound a tad harsh though. I need to have a somewhat 'acoustic' type of sound with a little tube 'bite', to play strum chords and fingerpick Rockabilly and Jazz. Is that too much to ask?ps, i do not want to spend more that around 600 $.
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I can make a jazzy version of this if you like, (two gain stages instead of three, less high gain preamp), and if you accept some cannabilized parts (guaranteed to be 100% good to go), I'll build u one for that sum.
Unfortunately I only have this clip when it still was naked, no cover, but my avatar picture is how it looks now.
YouTube - Lucky13 tubeamp
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Nice one. Is that a pair of 6v6 i see on the vid, tube rectifier, 2 or 3 12ax7's? All tubes i gather. no SS. With a slightly bigger OT you could get Deluxe Reverb 18-20watts specs w the 2 6v6s capable.Plan to run it through a 12inch sp. How about the schematics? Before we get into this i have to let you know i live in IRELAND, different voltage area, and postage/import tax costs from the US, unfortunelaty. Before this i was looking at early Fender tweeds, but decided that BF was the way to go. I do remember some really cool Gibson amps i played through but, a little too dark for strumming chimey chords. Together with a 3 way tone circuit the BF seems an obvious choice. The amp on the vid sounds great though.thanks for all of this. Please let me know what you think.Originally posted by redelephant View PostComment
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Well, I live in Norway, so perhaps we can work something out
Yes you are pretty much correct on the tubes.
A Fender is definately a safer bet. Although I use premium parts my amps will always be a no-name which gives it about zero resale value. I tell all my potential customers that, and usually end up with those who are looking for something unique. They do seem satisfied though since I often have them coming back
On my amps I have a 'jazz/blues' switch which changes the preamp response a little, basically just a simple bright switch. Having a pentode-triode option might also help getting the old-school warm jazz tone. If u want a clean amp with some output-stage crunch perhaps a single gain stage is all u need, into a pair of cathode biased 5881s?
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Thanks.Great, you're living in Norway.I do own a Fender Projunior which i have calmed down into a nice small blues amp, so i don't need the crunch. I would go with the cathode biased 6v6s instead of the 5881s, given the fact i only need around 18 Watts. With the Fender Deluxe specs, an AB763 circuit, good quality board, OT, caps and resistors and pots etc.My ideal amp would be that setup. Basically a one channel amp, without the Reverb, but with the Tremolo (albeit the Vibroverb based one instead of the Deluxe one, meaning a 6g16). The Deluxe lite but with the Hoffman (vibroverb) tremolo ( see attachments).Pots would be: 1 volume, 2 bass, 3 middle, 4 treble, 5 speed, 6 intensity. I am not too good with soldering, otherwise i would've made one myself, with the Hoffman parts AB763 list, with trannys and tubes, adding up to around 250$, without an enclosure/speaker. Adding on the enclosure and speaker would come to 400 euro+ labour costs. That's more like it! Some manufacturers sell the board and kit (revolver, hatcher amps) without the OT, valves and trannies for around $290. That is too much for a stripped system.And Tube amp Doctor in Germany sell the kit (+OT and trannies) for...900 euro. That's just silly. Anyway, if i can find a tech that can make me the board without adding the valves for around 300 euro, i'd go for it. Could that person be you?Attached FilesComment
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Well the lite version certainly can be done pretty cheap. Are you talking with or without the chassis? Just the board?
To be honest it might be better to bail out of this one, I've got to double check my time schedule since I know I already have plenty projects going on (only a few of them amp related unfortunately).
I'll let you know a secret tho...One motivation for doing an amp for you that silly cheap is to widen my portfolio...Being able to say I have customers in Ireland is better than not saying it That concept doesn't hold much value for me if the amp is merely a clone, it'd have to be my design. I'm like a pervert that needs to spread my mark all over the world.
Anyways, secrets aside, I will check my workload for the next few months and see how it looks.
Anyone else out there want to do help ballynally come on and jump in...Comment
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Don't really mind the design aspect. I don't want the Fender look, just the specs. Most techs would have particular ideas about a particular amp and might deviate in cap, resistor values etc.The reason many stick to the main specifics is that they like the sound, then tweak it to their needs. Like Jim Marshall did with modifying the Fender Bassman in the 60's. Then you leave a specific mark on things. I have yet to find a link to a european amp builder that builds my preferred chassis for a reasonable price. They do sell the 53E circuit Deluxe chassis once in a while (last time i saw it for 275 euro on Marktplaats.nl< i'm from Holland originally), valves and all, but not the Deluxe Reverb).So.. i appreciate your replies. Maybe sometime later we can get back to this. I do see a market for this type of amp in Europe without paying over the top. True, you won't make much money out of it. But it's a simple setup, and if one amp sells succesfully for the right price, it might mean more work. Since you seem to have enough work already i can understand your hesitation. That's understandable. I hope to hear from you some other time. all the best.Comment
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Maybe I could do something for him.... Maybe along the lines of an 18 watt using 6V6 in P/P ?Originally posted by redelephant View Post
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Go fer it mate!
btw I like that 'lite' circuit. I'd like to use transformer coupling between PI and output tubes, but other than that I'd leave it as is. Oh, the layout would also be a little different, but point is I like that circuit. I'd also use the fixed bias scheme instead of cathode bias, I doubt u'll get 18-20watts out of a cathode biased pair of 6V6s, which is why I'd use cathode biased 5881s and aim for 25-30watts if cathode bias was what you wanted.Comment
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yep. fixed bias would be fine, including trafo coup. i'm going to investigate the 'Deluxe lite' version a bit more.Comment
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Just purchased a Traynor 'dark horse'.15 watts, 2 6V6 2 12ax7, ss rec.5 kg.356 euro (thomann).That's more like it! It looks like an 'Art Nouveau' design from the 1930's, all metal. A thing of beauty. check this baby out. I will update when i receive itComment
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No, your idea seems good, but I can't not agree with you. There is other choice.Originally posted by redelephant View PostComment
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Does this discussion really belong here?
As in it's not a general interest technical or sound discussion, but rather customer/maker haggling.
After the first or second answer it might have continued through PM or EMail.
Just my 2 cents.Juan Manuel FaheyComment
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