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  • Traynor DH-15 'dark horse' review

    First test review of the Traynor 'dark horse' DH-15 head amp. 12/15 Watts, 5kg , awesome looking amp head.
    I paid 365 euro for it, new. Sits comfortably between a Champ and a Deluxe.reverb.The sound is very close to a Fender Deluxe reverb in fact. It normally is driven through a Celestion greenback 12" in cabinet, also made by Traynor. I just used a Celestion G12-75, because i intend to use it with a Epi ES295 hollow body (big jazz guitar with 2 P90s). This changes the sound somewhat. Very clean in bass and treble, scooped more than the greenback which has a warmer sound.
    The 'dark horse' has too may highs as it is i think. Even with the treble down to 0 it kept trebley. I'll put in a different resistor later to lower the highs. The stock preamp tube is a sovtek 12AX7wa and it drives both the gain and the master channel. Replace this with a better tube. In my case i used a GE5751, like i did in my vibroverb 63 RI. It lowers the output slightly, but clears up the sound considerably. Then i used a 12AT7 as a PI. The stock JJ 6V6 output tubes are fine.
    I must admit i was apprehensive about the gain/master interaction, especially since it's a low watt amp. I couldv'e lived without that. I would say they use it so you can get a beefed up sound with the gain high and the master low. The Fender Blues Junior does the same. I was looking for a cleaner sound, more a Deluxe Rev than a tweed and.... i got it! I'm happy to say that the gain channel acts like a proper first volume section, without going into saturation on 8 or 9 o clock. I had to move it to 1 or 2 o clock when it started to beef things up, in a good way mind you. My setting would be: gain 12 o clock, master on 3 o clock, bass on 2 and treble on 9.
    There are 3 different settings, operated by a switch.1: USA. this one gives you a scooped Fender Deluxe reverb sound (12 watt). 2: Pure. it bypasses the EQ altogether, has more output than the USA (15 watt). More beefed up mids too. 3: Brit: well.. it tries to be a Vox, but doesn't really get you there. It is only a different EQ setting. For some reason it distorts more than the USA setting, but i don't like this kind of distortion. I wasn't terribly impressed, although it is usable. You also have a 2 watt 12au7 as an output tube, which gives you a distorted, low volume sound. That's just a little plaything.

    So.. It's not like a small tweed or a Vox ac15, but like a smaller Deluxe Reverb.It's a good price compared to a new Deluxe and will take you 80% there. I gather it should be miked up when playing in a rock setting. It has slightly less beef than a Blues Junior, but the cleans are nicer through the 6v6s instead of the EL84s.i might be suffering from new amp= great amp syndrome, and haven't tested it on stage. I will do that in the coming week.

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    Cool. I got to spend half an hour with one not long ago. My impressions were generally the same as yours. Nice amp, I thought.

    EG

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Elias Graves View Post
      Cool. I got to spend half an hour with one not long ago. My impressions were generally the same as yours. Nice amp, I thought.

      EG
      i've gone back to a 12AX7 preamp instead of the 5751, for i found the pre needed beefing up. It drives both the first gain stage AND the master stage. It didn't get enough signal going through gain to the master, and had to turnit up to 3 o clock to get some beef in. Also, i changed the speaker. I decided on the Eminence Cannibis Rex (hemp cone), cause the celestion had way too many spikey highs.

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      • #4
        I tried the amp in a live situation. trio, no drums.The Traynor perfectly held up. I'd say depending on the style of music and drummer it could hold up. Country/ blues/ reggae, all good. I didn't go past 1/2 on the amp. I momentarily tried it out full blast. Very little dirt. all power to the tubes. delighted by the performance. There are a few videos on Youtube where there is a drummer plying, so it's a perfect small Deluxe reverb amp, without the reverb, of course. It's great!

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        • #5
          Hmm. Calling it a good DR clone is NOT helping me out here.
          Thanks for the good info.

          EG

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Elias Graves View Post
            Hmm. Calling it a good DR clone is NOT helping me out here.
            Thanks for the good info.

            EG
            What are you looking for?

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            • #7
              i've recorded some tracks on the Traynor DH-15,Eminence Cannabis Rex speaker 12", with both my Epiphone ES 295 and my Telecaster. Also on my Fender Vibroverb with Copperhead speakers, to give you some reference. All recorded in mp3 high quality format (96/mono), with no effects:
              http://www.soundcloud.com/ballynally listento live recordings of the Vibroverb 63 RI in a trio setting here: http://www.myspace.com/themenwhoknewtoomuch.
              The vibroverb is slightly warmer (browner?), but only just (me thinks). Different speaker (copperhead) also. Still, the 2 amps are in the same ballpark qua sound, but not in wattage. Together with my Pro Junior EL84 tweed a have an amp for most occasions

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