Hello it's me

[Wombaticus]

I also have a General Electricians Certification, besides the C7 license.
It's not bragging, it's fact.

Oh, really? That database is public, you know. As far as I can see, you are C7 only, and you've only had that since 2010, despite your claimed 40 years of amp repair. Or is that not you?

[soundguruman]

Oh, really? That database is public, you know. As far as I can see, you are C7 only, and you've only had that since 2010, despite your claimed 40 years of amp repair. Or is that not you?

I am California General Certified Electrician 139566
It is public, you know.

Whats "your" certification number?

Interesting that you have been so keen on interrogating me...
BUT as all can see, you have not stated your own personal qualifications,
And so, I might derive that you don't have "any."
That's "zero"
I think it is pretty safe to say anyhow.

But I do not doubt for a minute that you "must" be a fantastic technician yourself.

[soundguruman]

Oh, really? That database is public, you know. As far as I can see, you are C7 only, and you've only had that since 2010, despite your claimed 40 years of amp repair. Or is that not you?

Long silence.......are you done trolling for the day?

ILICISCCCAOMKB!

[olddawg]

You guys crack me up spoofing for bragging rights. I'll just say that I was/am a pretty good technician. That said, when I have a question people like Enzo, Chuck, etc are the best resources I have found. Knowledgeable, helpful, and friendly.

[soundguruman]

It's not bragging.
People asked me, and I told them truth.
Deal with it.

There are of course, lots of really great techs who have no "paper" qualifications. Absolutely.
And many of them are extremely helpful and knowledgeable. No argument.
In fact I could care less about the "paper" on the wall. If you know what you are doing, then more power to you.

But, the point of the thread was to beg for civility. There is no point in attacking, name calling, etc...
You can discuss, disagree, state your own method. That does not mean that there can't be another method, that works too.
And when attacked, I will defend myself.
The people who attack? They do not give me the credit I have earned- that's OK.
I was doing Fender warrantee service when most of them were in diapers, or before they were born. I've earned the right to state my method too.

[Wombaticus]

I am California General Certified Electrician 139566
It is public, you know.

Whats "your" certification number?

Interesting that you have been so keen on interrogating me...
BUT as all can see, you have not stated your own personal qualifications,
And so, I might derive that you don't have "any."
That's "zero"
I think it is pretty safe to say anyhow.

But I do not doubt for a minute that you "must" be a fantastic technician yourself.

Let's start at the end. While I *am* the bearer of a Ph.D. in the sciences, and am a professor and scientist at a major US research university, I have made no claim of specialist training in the area of electronics. In this realm, I regard myself only as something of a devoted amateur. In any case, readers of this thread will likely form their own opinion of the level of analytical sophistication and troubleshooting ability possessed, on one hand, by an amateur such as myself, and on the other, by a journeyman in the electrical trade who has been a frequent purveyor of unsound advice on this forum. Perhaps an unappetizing choice! But this thread isn't really about me, and I was not the one making specious claims about the professional licensing requirements in the State of California with respect to amplifier repair. According to the original criteria that you laid out, qualification under the "contractor" provision would require that your employer (or YOU if you're sole proprietor) have C-10 certification to work on high-voltage systems. As I pointed out, it's nonsense anyway, since almost anyone can just write a cheque for $165 to BEAR and be done with it.

Regardless -- by my reading of the regulations it seems pretty clear that possession of a journeyman card alone is insufficient for you to be considered as a high-voltage certified contractor.. Until you either get your C-10, or send BEAR a cheque, you may be out-of-compliance after all. If this is important to you, you might consider seeking further clarification from a professional or from the CSLB.

[olddawg]

It's not bragging.
People asked me, and I told them truth.
Deal with it.

There are of course, lots of really great techs who have no "paper" qualifications. Absolutely.
And many of them are extremely helpful and knowledgeable. No argument.
In fact I could care less about the "paper" on the wall. If you know what you are doing, then more power to you.

But, the point of the thread was to beg for civility. There is no point in attacking, name calling, etc...
You can discuss, disagree, state your own method. That does not mean that there can't be another method, that works too.
And when attacked, I will defend myself.
The people who attack? They do not give me the credit I have earned- that's OK.
I was doing Fender warrantee service when most of them were in diapers, or before they were born. I've earned the right to state my method too.

Nevertheless... You are simply incorrect about electronics certification in California. I was born here and have lived and worked here most of my life. My previous bosses were Presidents of CSEA for many years. If you worked in the industry in the 70s through the 90s you would know Don and George. Certification is done by manufacturer and that is only for Authorized Servicers. BEAR encourages and endorses the CET program but does not make it a mandatory requirement. I'm all for being civil and getting along and all, but the stuff you are saying is simply wrong to be polite.

[soundguruman]

Nevertheless... You are simply incorrect about electronics certification in California. I was born here and have lived and worked here most of my life. My previous bosses were Presidents of CSEA for many years. If you worked in the industry in the 70s through the 90s you would know Don and George. Certification is done by manufacturer and that is only for Authorized Servicers. BEAR encourages and endorses the CET program but does not make it a mandatory requirement. I'm all for being civil and getting along and all, but the stuff you are saying is simply wrong to be polite.

I have discussed these issues with BEAR officials,
and have been informed my business is absolutely legitimate and legal.
But thanks for your "concern."

[überfuzz]

I've studied electronics at the university, I guess I could say that Analogue Electronics covered pretty much everything issued here - in theory. For me the practical part of analogue electronics is something you have learn by getting 'your hand dirty'. In my country there's no licence, that I know of, for profitable tinkering with amps. If there's a mishappening involving electronics, insurance companies wouldn't pay any attention to a licence flashed by the responsible tech.

[cyclone]

I learned tube theory in a classroom with a military instructor drawing tube curves on a chalkboard (not whiteboard lol) we could smoke in class! My radar had a 7 ft long travelling wave tube. The transmitter had a built in chainfall so we could lift the tube out to replace it.

Plus, my Dad was a TV repairman, he had the ULTIMTE set of tools
Do I get my card now??