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Shouldn't this PT be fine for this amp?? Tell me if I'm crazy here...

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  • Shouldn't this PT be fine for this amp?? Tell me if I'm crazy here...

    Quick back story - I built a 6G5-A Brown era Pro for someone, debugged it with some forum help and then shipped it off. The amp was running quietly, sounded great, and was idling at around 18W per tube w/ a 451 plate voltage. The guy gets it and says everything sounds great but there's a hum. This guy is not familiar with circuits so I told him I'd spring for a local tech to look at it and find whatever may have come a little loose or whatever. So I end up talking to the tech after he had looked at it and he tells me that it sounds bad and that he compared it to the sound of a Princeton Reverb that was in his shop and says they sound different (as if they are supposed to sound the same). I press him a little for some data and he can't even tell me what the plate current was. And then he proceeds to tell me that the PT isn't right and can't handle that amp and that the whole circuit is sagging and causing low B+ and low neg bias voltage. He says it was 420v when the schematic says 450.

    The PT I put in it is rated for 240mA and with 2 6L6's and 6 12ax7's should be demanding a little more than 182mA according to JJ spec sheets. Am I missing something or is this guy just grabbing at straws??

    Here's the PT I used and the amp schem

    http://www.classictone.net/40-18005.pdf

    http://www.thevintagesound.com/ffg/s...g5-a_schem.gif
    ~Semi-No0b Hobbyist~

  • #2
    The Classictone PT should be ok.

    Symptoms: Hum and low B+
    Possible causes:
    1) One output tube drawing excessive current. Could be the tube or a bias issue.
    2) Open rectifier diode or open PT winding on one side. (Small possibility as I think about it.)
    3) Ultrasonic oscillation. Bad ground, solder connection or lead dress.
    WARNING! Musical Instrument amplifiers contain lethal voltages and can retain them even when unplugged. Refer service to qualified personnel.
    REMEMBER: Everybody knows that smokin' ain't allowed in school !

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    • #3
      I double check Classic Tone, it's the right PT.

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      • #4
        Ok thanks. He's goin to ship it back to me so I'll get to see for myself what's going on. I don't mind having an issue and dealing with it but it was kind of frustrating for his tech to get him all worried about his new amp. I guess in the future if there's a problem I'll just have them send it back to me to begin with.
        ~Semi-No0b Hobbyist~

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        • #5
          Just found my notes from the last bias readings before shipping the amp out. 1 ohm resistors are in place for easy reading.

          OUTPUT TUBES
          .042vdc(42mA) with 451 plate for 18.94W
          .043vdc(43mA) with 451 plate for 19.39W

          When I get it back I'll post a full set of data.
          ~Semi-No0b Hobbyist~

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