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  • 2 noob questions - What to do with center taps from PT & where do you wire NFB swithc

    Building a 5F2a from scratch.
    Using an Allied 6K3VG
    it has Red/Yellow and Green/Yellow center taps.

    Weber layout shows these going to ground.
    Is that right?
    Grounded together to a chassis ground OK?

    Also, all the cool kids have negative feedback switches in their tweed amps.
    All I've found is that it removes the 22K resistor.
    I need a picture, I'm that dense...

    Thanks!

  • #2
    That's all the feedback switch does.

    Puts the 22K 'feedback resistor' In or Out.

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    • #3
      Yes, switch in series with feedback resistor. Open switch gives open loop, no feedback.
      For PT center-taps, both go to chassis ground but make sure one side of heater winding is NOT grounded like original schematic shows, only center-tap gets grounded.
      Originally posted by Enzo
      I have a sign in my shop that says, "Never think up reasons not to check something."


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      • #4
        Thanks.
        Pretend I'm 12 though...
        The switch either puts the 22K resistor between pin 8 of the preamp tube and the speaker output either in the circuit or bypasses it completely.
        I.e. when the switch is open, there is no connection between pin 8 and the speaker jack.

        Or am I even looking at the right 22K resistor?
        ???
        (when I said noob...)

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        • #5
          We were simul-posting, see above.
          Originally posted by Enzo
          I have a sign in my shop that says, "Never think up reasons not to check something."


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          • #6
            Yep.
            Thanks.
            Center tap, got it. Pin 9 not grounded so OK to ground center taps.
            Re: 22K resistor
            So I have it right?

            Really appreciate the help and tolerance of such basic eye roll-ey questions.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by jmardy View Post
              Building a 5F2a from scratch.
              Using an Allied 6K3VG
              it has Red/Yellow and Green/Yellow center taps.

              Weber layout shows these going to ground.
              Is that right?
              Grounded together to a chassis ground OK?
              Your question indicates that you do not possess the knowledge and experience necessary to safely build an amp from scratch. Serious injury or death could result. Do you have any electronic experience at all? Can you find a local mentor to help you?
              WARNING! Musical Instrument amplifiers contain lethal voltages and can retain them even when unplugged. Refer service to qualified personnel.
              REMEMBER: Everybody knows that smokin' ain't allowed in school !

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              • #8
                Originally posted by loudthud View Post
                Your question indicates that you do not possess the knowledge and experience necessary to safely build an amp from scratch. Serious injury or death could result. Do you have any electronic experience at all? Can you find a local mentor to help you?
                I know enough not to get shocked.
                I've replaced caps and pots and know how to solder and build cables.
                You guys are my mentors...
                ;-)

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                • #9
                  The switch can go in series between the speaker jack and the 22K.
                  To nitpick about the terminology, it is not a bypass, but is breaking the NFB loop (To me, bypass would mean putting a short across the 22K resistor).

                  There is potential for complications, which are covered in this thread: http://music-electronics-forum.com/t10969/
                  Originally posted by Enzo
                  I have a sign in my shop that says, "Never think up reasons not to check something."


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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by g-one View Post
                    The switch can go in series between the speaker jack and the 22K.
                    To nitpick about the terminology, it is not a bypass, but is breaking the NFB loop (To me, bypass would mean putting a short across the 22K resistor).

                    There is potential for complications, which are covered in this thread: http://music-electronics-forum.com/t10969/
                    Thanks for the help!
                    I'd found that thread but wanted to double-check.

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                    • #11
                      So I've completed the build and learned a lot.
                      Some pictures in my other thread:
                      My first build has begun. - 5F2a from scratch

                      A lot of things made sense once I started the work.
                      Thanks all for the help and support.

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