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  • Partridge type transformer set in Marshall 1987 type build

    Hi MEF'rs.
    I have an old Lanely LA60BL, from the late 60's. In most ways it is very similar to a late 60's Superbass circuit except perhaps v1 Rk components. I also already have several Marshall type builds... a JTM45, a 1987, a 1959, and 2203 circuits. What I love about the Lanely is that the sound is generally fatter and more clear - especially in the bass and low mid frequencies. Highs seems to be a bit more mellow as well, but it could be the circuit doing that. I can only assume that a big part of the reason would be the Partridge output tranny (TG9686) and a much higher B+ (hovering 570-600VDC from memory).

    Would this be a proper assessment? Is this output transformer considered to be more "hifi" than the standard Drake/Dagnalls of the late 60's/70's?

    I am trying to understand output trannys better... winding styles etc and their resulting characteristics. But it is a lot to take in.

    Anyway, I am thinking of putting in as similar a set of transformers that I can find to these partridge trannies into a new 1987'ish build I am starting to collect components for. What I have found is that the transformers that usually come recommended (new production, probably Inmadout) for a Hiwatt DR504 may do the job as they seem to have similar characteristics (on paper)...

    As seen here: https://www.tube-town.net/info/daten...4-pw-v2020.pdf
    Power Tranny for HiWatt DR504
    Secondary: 350 - 0 - 350
    Filaments: 3.15 - 0 - 3.15
    Bias: 50V

    The dedicated bias tap is a nice feature.... but if I am correct, rectified power should come to just under 500VDC. Correct? (700 x .71 roughly)

    Output tranny for Hiwatt DR504 - https://www.tube-town.net/info/daten...t-dr504-ot.pdf
    Primary: 3k8Ω
    Secondary: 4, 8, 16 ohm
    Max: 75 watt

    I hope that a standard 3H, 100mA choke would work in this scenario? Or would I require something... beefier?

    To be used with a set of EL34, new production. I typically use TAD or Harma since I have had much less failure rates than factory branded, off the shelf stuff. Actually as far as TAD and Harma both go, I have yet to have a failure after a few years.

    So, am I barking up the right tree here? Thanks for your input... I would feel better to know I am making an okay move here. I am not afraid to face replacing them if it doesn't work out sonically... but I never like to just jump in the deep end on my own limited knowledge and experience.
    "'He who first proclaims to have golden ears is the only one in the argument who can truly have golden ears.' The opponent, therefore, must, by the rules, have tin ears, since there can only be one golden-eared person per argument." - Randall Aiken

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    I think to find out what difference an OT makes, you need to compare them in the same circuit.

    Everything else would be just speculation

    E.g. bigger core doesn't necessarily mean a better transformer and a technically better transformer might not "sound" better in a guitar amp.

    Also OT manufacturers never publish complete data including main inductance (depending on voltage and frequency), leakage inductance, effective primary capacitance, saturation limit and others

    So even a look-alike clone might perform different from the original.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Helmholtz View Post
      I think to find out what difference an OT makes, you need to compare them in the same circuit.

      Everything else would be just speculation

      E.g. bigger core doesn't necessarily mean a better transformer and a technically better transformer might not "sound" better in a guitar amp.

      Also OT manufacturers never publish complete data including main inductance (depending on voltage and frequency), leakage inductance, effective primary capacitance, saturation limit and others

      So even a look-alike clone might perform different from the original.
      Good advise. Thank you.

      I find myself leaning back to what I know, or have experienced, and I already have a good set of trannys that are made for this circuit specifically. So I am gonna "fold" and leave "more than well enough" alone.

      Thanks for the reply!
      "'He who first proclaims to have golden ears is the only one in the argument who can truly have golden ears.' The opponent, therefore, must, by the rules, have tin ears, since there can only be one golden-eared person per argument." - Randall Aiken

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