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  • Uh-Oh No paddle

    I've posted here before about a tone cabinet conversion to guitar amp that went very very well, and now I'm giving it a go with a from scratch build of a Hoffman AC-30 using mostly new parts, with some recycled transformers/sockets/etc.
    At first test I was using the field coils of 2 old electrodynamic speakers as a filter coil. The results were thumping, loud hum on warm-up, no signal I could hear, and it all happened regardless of the volume. I swapped in an actual filter coil for the second test, and that stopped the thumping, but there is still a loud hum (except in standby it's quiet) and also I noticed I could hear a faint signal through the speaker that is almost drowned-out by the hum. I tried pulling tubes and there was no change by pulling preamp tubes or individual power tubes, but it was silent when I pulled the all power tubes. I was checking grounds and found the negative side of the speaker was open to ground! I hope I didn't kill the amp with an open speaker ground. I grounded it and checked again and it's still the same. I can't get voltages because of the massive hum.

    To sum it up:
    1. Loud hum comes on as the tubes warm up regardless of volume setting or if there is a guitar connected or not. So bad I have to shut it off within a few seconds.
    2. I can hear a faint guitar sound with the volume up, which may be slightly distorted, but its hard to tell because the hum is so loud.

    And now my soldering iron died too

    Help

  • #2
    Check continunity to the screen grids of all the output tubes.
    WARNING! Musical Instrument amplifiers contain lethal voltages and can retain them even when unplugged. Refer service to qualified personnel.
    REMEMBER: Everybody knows that smokin' ain't allowed in school !

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    • #3
      I started looking more closely at what I put together, and found so much I did wrong, it's a wonder I didn't knock-out the local power grid. I'm calling 'uncle' on this one.

      Instead I went back to an old Telepage telephone paging system my dad gave me. I figuired that I learned a lot in the past few months, and decided to give it another go. I'm glad I did. Several months ago, when I first tried to test it, it looked hoplessly broken, packed with dirt, and even had a mud-dabber nest inside the chassis. Well I cleaned it up, and shazam! I got a moderately loud output, with very good sound quality, through the rca input.

      So, now I plan to convert this one into a head unit (it has a beautiful metal; case I can restore). I have a couple obstacles, like no schematic, and the other 2 mic input channels produce zero sound (which I think I caused when I cut the balanced line in and replaced with 1/4" jacks), but I think I can do it. My mod list is:

      1. add standby switch
      2. Input/channel mod
      a) (only working channel) remove rca connector, connect 1/4 input jack, relocate to channel 2 hole as low-gain channel
      b) cascade output of channel one (6eu7(a)) into the other half of 6eu7(b) (was channel 2) for the high gain-channel
      3. use former channel 2 volume pot for post 6eu7(b) as high-gain volume, and use former channel 1 pot as channel 1 gain
      4. Make the case shine!

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