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  • Building a 5F6-A

    It'll be my 2nd 5F6-A build, and my first build came out just great. Plus, I have two originals - it's one of my favorite amp designs and a great sounding amp.

    I went thru the parts bins in my shop and I have almost everything I need, except for the transformers (power and output) and a choke.

    I'd love to get some recommendations for these three components from the more informed forum members.
    Techs in the know are aware that the post rectified B+ in the 5F6-A is about 432 Vdc for the power transformer as opposed to the way too high B+ voltage in the reissues of these classic amps. The output transformer should be a 2 ohm output. Not sure about choke but I'm assuming I could use the same/similar choke as other amps using 2x 5881 power tubes with a similar B+ voltage.

    Thanks in adv for your recommendations,
    Bob M.

  • #2
    Well I'm sorry I can't endorse any iron because I haven't built one of these. I'm just keying up to say...

    Why not something different this time? I mean, you already have three 5f6a's. Two originals and one clone to take out so the originals can stay safe at home. Why not a reverb/trem amp? Or something with more hot rod gain?

    No judgment here. You do you man. I'm only sharing my own perspective because the only times I've built the same amp more than once was because someone else wanted one.

    Something I built for a customer but haven't for myself yet is a dedicated reverb amp. The one I made was a 1x10 15W tube combo but there are no rules. It filtches a little power from the host amp to drive a reverb tank. This allows you to keep the oginal amp tone untouched and also sounds better reverberating overdriven tones than a built in reverb. With a little thought it could be made to run effects too. Wouldn't that be a snazzy thing to have for your three Bassmans?
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    • #3
      What about a 6G15 standalone reverb? I built 2 of those and there's nothing really like them before a old amp.

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      • #4
        I already have one of those standalone Fender 6G15 reverb units, an early brown tolex 1961 version.
        Bob M.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Bob M. View Post
          I already have one of those standalone Fender 6G15 reverb units, an early brown tolex 1961 version.
          Bob M.
          That's cool for sure. But that goes into the input of the amp. The circuit I'm talking about powers the tank from the WHOLE amplifier tone. ie:.. When you plug your 6g15 in and overdrive the amp you're overdriving the reverberated tone. With the circuit I'm talking about you are reverberating the overdriven tone. There's a big difference in clarity, effect, note separation. And the same goes for effects. When you distort a chorused tone you get mush. But when you chorus a distorted tone you get lush.

          But like I said, you do you. Just defending my suggestion because your reply didn't actually represent what I was talking about and I wanted to clarify the difference and advantages. If you mostly play clean or get your distortion with pedals ahead of the 6g15 (and I don't so that may be a real difference) then the 6g15 is a truely iconic effect with great results and a signature. Since I play dirty and DI most of the time I do better with a different signal chain. Artist gonna be artists and however you make music is the right way for you.

          EDIT: The original question still stands though. Why a fourth 5f6a? It's one of the best sounding circuits in the world to be sure. But just one of them. There are others.
          Last edited by Chuck H; Today, 01:32 AM.
          "Take two placebos, works twice as well." Enzo

          "Now get off my lawn with your silicooties and boom-chucka speakers and computers masquerading as amplifiers" Justin Thomas

          "If you're not interested in opinions and the experience of others, why even start a thread?
          You can't just expect consent." Helmholtz

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          • #6
            What is the B+ on the clone you built ? What transformers were used to build it ?

            Just to make doubly sure you get the right OT, I'd be tempted to measure it's primary impedance.
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