Hey Greg. Yeah, I've done a lot... Lol. It's funny, on the cap side (C36) of R67, I'm getting full bias voltage (-50 to -35 ish as I adjust the pot) But on the other side of R67, I'm getting no more than -20 Volts DC. I've changed that resistor (220k) and it stays the same...
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So is there a voltage drop across R67?
EDIT: If so, and you've already isolated pin 5 from the PCB with a core drill, then the tubes are drawing grid current, and are part of the problem.
If instead there's no voltage drop across R67, and rather there's a larger voltage drop across PR1 than PR2, then leakage is getting in somewhere else, like around CON1, R77, etc.Last edited by Greg Robinson; 06-18-2024, 01:39 PM.
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Hey Greg...The measurements that I told you are with all the tubes removed. I also noticed that r77 and r68 are not what the schematic says they are. R68 is a 22k instead of a 33k... R77 is most definitely not a 10k as it says in the schematic. I'm gonna change it to the correct value and see what happens. Also, yes. R67 definitely has a voltage drop. Approximately 20 volts. On the cap side of R67, I read full bias voltage..on the opposite side of R67, I'm reading -18 to -20 volts and I can dial it down to -8 volts, but I cant get it higher than -20. No tubes installed.
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Ok, so you've now confirmed without a doubt that this amp is suffering from the board leakage problem.
You now have to decide if you'll attempt the board modification as described in earlier posts, or replace the board.
You can attempt most of the proceedure required for the drtube kit before ordering it to see if it might be viable before purchase (ie, lift those components from the board and suspend them). I've already expressed my opinion that such modifications are not a long term solution. YMMV.
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Originally posted by Greg Robinson View PostOh, and C46? 1kV is not adequate in this position.
I can't imagine a situation during normal operation where the difference between plate and screen voltage would be larger than 500V.
Exception would be oscillation.
Most examples I've had across my bench were stable without it present though, so it can also just be removed from circuit.
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As far as changing part values to match a schematic, is it the exact same version as the unit you are looking at? They are often tweaking values through the various revisions. If you are changing to a newer revision I guess that would be ok, but I would want to make sure it does not correspond to other differences that may not be present.Originally posted by EnzoI have a sign in my shop that says, "Never think up reasons not to check something."
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Originally posted by Helmholtz View PostWhy?
I can't imagine a situation during normal operation where the difference between plate and screen voltage would be larger than 500V.
Exception would be oscillation.
Originally posted by Helmholtz View PostDid you do stability testing using a square wave signal with a resistive as well as a speaker load?
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