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Is anyone intrested in helping me get an old peavey running?

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  • #16
    OK, when using a meter, there is no such thing as "no reading." The meter can indicate no continuity or infinite resistance, that is the reading can be the same as if you didn;t probe anything. But thay is not "no reading," that is a reading of "open." Likewise, if you see zero ohms, that is still a reading. So instead of "no reading," just report what the meter says, even if it indicates open. Follow the distinction?


    If you put one meter probe on one end of that 1k resistor and the other meter probe at its far end, the meter would normally indicate 1000 ohms or some other amount. If the resistor is indeed open, then you get an open reading on the meter, or maybe very high resistance.

    When measuring anything connected to capacitors, take the readings a second time, but reverse your probes end for end on the part. That is a hedge against possible remaining small voltage charges in the circuit confusing the meter. If your meter on ohms ever indicates "negative" resistance, that means there is some voltage left in the circuit. There isn't really negative resistance.

    The orange gray orange resistor probably started life some other colors. orange gray is 38, a non standard resistor value.

    Yes, your probes can make poor contact with oxidized wires. I always rub the edge of my probe along the wire to polish up a spot. Also probes are pointed for a reason, push the point into the soft solder some to improve contact. Nice probes are truly needle sharp. And they'll stick you.

    The resistor that is 1k 5w is whet we call the screen node resistor, and it is not unusual for them to fail. Bad tubes will often damage that resistor. This is in any tube amp, not just this one.

    At some point we will have to fire up the amp and see what it does. VOltage readings are taken with the meter black probe connected to ground, which is generally chassis.
    Education is what you're left with after you have forgotten what you have learned.

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    • #17
      May I suggest buying Jack Darr's "Electric Guitar Amplifier Handbook"?
      You can get it at Amazon and many other places.
      Incredibly good, step by step teaching.
      I myself started with it, 42 years ago.
      Made and delivered over 10,000 amps by now, still going strong with about 20/30 a month, must have had a good teacher, isn't it so?
      My very first build (which might be yours too) was the 5W , 12AX7+6V6 Gibson GAż5? depicted there.
      Read it end to end, then start again going slower.
      You'll love it.
      Juan Manuel Fahey

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      • #18
        Originally posted by J M Fahey View Post
        May I suggest buying Jack Darr's "Electric Guitar Amplifier Handbook"?
        + 1 on this idea. As a bonus, it has the schematic for the power and and preamp section for the peavey classic being discussed here (as well as a bunch of other common amps) in the back section of the book.

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        • #19
          Ok Im going to get the book great suggestion. To enzo I understand how you discribed the open and zero distinction above I will use these terms for now on. I place the probes on the 1k (screen node resistor) and the meter stays at 1 (No Continuity)like I never touched anything. The guy I bought this amp from says when he bought it, it played, and when he brought it home he changed the tubes but no longer had sound. Theres a place by me that has a tube tester. I will bring the tubes there after work tommorrow and have them tested. its possible that the tubes that where in it went bad and he just replaced them thinking that was the problem. not for sure. And thx to J M Fahey I now hove the first 8 chapters of the book mentioned. I googled it and found someone that has posted it online for free

          Some chapters from Jack Darr's classic book
          Last edited by fenderstrat; 07-15-2010, 10:12 PM. Reason: wrong wording

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          • #20
            wow! there's a still a place with a tube tester out there. Cool...

            Good luck with your project, fenderstrat

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            • #21
              thx pontiacpete

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              • #22
                Hey fenderstrat,

                God forbid you ever own or have to work on a solid state amp but, if you do, this book might be useful : Electronic Troubleshooting - Jerome E. Oleksy

                BTW it only takes .075A (that 75 milliamps) to cause a rapid, ineffective heartbeat which will in many cases kill you. Your circuit breaker on your service panel will trip at 15-20A and most amps have fuses that are rated 1 A or greater.

                Though I did see a table saw with DSP control (Saw Stop?) that bearly cut a hot dog ;-)

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by gbono View Post
                  God forbid you ever own or have to work on a solid state amp...
                  Too late! The amp he's working on is a hybrid, ss preamp, tube power section. IMHO these amps can sound good, however, and I've been told that Southerners dig them, and fenderstrat seems to be from Alabama, so it ought to be a good fit for man and amp.

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                  • #24
                    The electrical part I do get. I am constantly working on live 240/ 200amp services without turning the power off. I always treat everything as though it is hot even if A reading is zero volts on a meter I test several times in case I didnt have good contact with my probes. A 200amp service will certainly raise some hairs no doubt

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                    • #25
                      actually jhow im from New York. I lived in miami for a while and recieved a job with a traveling water main company and traveled for a while until one day I got sick of hotels. I just happened to be in alabama when I decided to end that and go back to a stationary job

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                      • #26
                        Hey, I like the south - even though I live in Northern California ;-) My late sister lived in Lafayette, Louisiana and I'm one of the few humans who love high heat AND relative humidity.

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                        • #27
                          Yeah its the amps that kill not the volts. I work with 240/ 200 amp service all the time while its live. It can definatly raise some hairs. I treat everything as though it is live and only after several readings do I touch anything.

                          Ok went to schematic heaven and pulled up the classic b under peavey and this is it not the (A) even though the 4 inputs are labeled different.

                          I tested the very large cap first black one side red the other got .678 or whatever the number was then reversed it and recieved another number 1.234 or whatever it was is this holding current
                          Last edited by fenderstrat; 07-16-2010, 01:27 AM.

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                          • #28
                            There's song lyrics in there somewhere... "Quit the water company and put down roots in Alabama..."

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                            • #29
                              Hey !!! "Southerners" !!!! (sort of)
                              I think I beat you all !!!!
                              I *do* live in South America he he
                              As to fenderstrat, I guess some southern belle must have been an important factor in that decision.
                              Girls are to Men what anchors are to ships.
                              Oh well, can't live with them, can't live without them.
                              Juan Manuel Fahey

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                              • #30
                                Girls are to Men what anchors are to ships.

                                Cut free in a storm and left behind?
                                Education is what you're left with after you have forgotten what you have learned.

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