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  • Mesa Boogie 3 channel Triple Rectifier oscillation

    i've got a triple rec here (3 channel), i can't find a schematic for it online, but i've got it up and running currently and i have some questions.
    so...i received the amp w/ a blown fuse and the owner said that channel 1 and 3 were low volume, but channel 2 seemed strong...the last time he fired it up it blew a fuse. then it came to me. he was on tour w/ it recently and took it to a tech on the road who claimed that some of the tubes were getting a little weak but the tech was able to play the amp at volume for an hour or two w/ no issues. his final diagnosis was that the tubes should be replaced after tour.
    fast forward to it being on my bench....
    first 3 pre-tubes test w/ one strong triode and one weak triode each. they also came to me in the amp w/ the word, "BAD" written on them. i will be replacing those.
    2 out of 3 rectifier tubes don't test at all, filaments don't even light. one had something loose rattling around in it, i suspect that's the cause for blown fuse. in any case, owner always operates the amp in diode-rectified mode. so i've simply pulled the rectifier tubes for the rest of the testing.
    now that the back story is caught up, i've got the amp working with seemingly typical output power. i've pulled all rectifier tubes, tested all tubes throughout the amp and it's currently working w/ pre- and power- tubes that it came to me with. however there is a low frequency oscillation after the amp receives a signal that sounds like a truck driving down the road. oscillation goes away w/ PI pulled. the oscillation won't start until a few seconds after you run a signal into the amp. sitting on and unused, it's quiet. i can't find any obvious loose connections w/ a chopstick, and i don't have a schematic...so i'm unsure where to go from here. suggestions?

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    If you have a signal generator I'd put in enough signal so that the amp is on the ragged edge of oscillating and then I would start probing-not looking for binary yes/no right/wrong on/off things but looking for changes in parameters of the oscillation you're hearing.

    I had an old Ampeg that a guy had rescued from a barn. I told him the overhaul it needed was only going to get us to the reason why it was put in the barn in the first place 20 years ago for pigeons to poop on. Anyway, what it would do was oscillate and after searching for a while I figured out what I wanted to do was get it right on the edge and see what affected the oscillation then.

    the cure was to relocate a ground wire about two inches away.

    You might even find that waving your hand over a ribbon connector can change the parameters enough to provide some clues and localize the problem.

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    • #3
      Mesa is relatively free with their schematics. Give a call/email their service department and see if you can get them.
      -Mike

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      • #4
        somehow...these amps use the rectifier tubes EVEN in the diode rectified mode. so, i replaced the rectifier tubes and now everything works. so dumb.

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