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    It's been a while since, in my own amateur way, I've had a problem that has really stumped me.

    I threw together a 2 X 6L6 head chassis, physical layout much like a JTM. However, I wanted to experiment with class A push pull idling at 100% so this is a JTM45 PT into a big honking choke input (5H, about 75 ohm). Here is my problem: one of the power tubes *I think* is oscillating, as it is pulling a lot of current and if I leave the amp on it will begin to red plate. Plate and screens are about 10V lower than the other tube. I have swapped tubes around (even using extra pairs) - no difference. I changed out that specific socket - no difference. Swapping plate leads - no difference (problem stays with that tube location, the one closest to the rectifier). BTW, I will be using a little NFB but it is not connected as yet. I have systematically pulled ALL the preamp tubes, no difference - it still does this with all preamp tubes pulled. So, the problem seems to be somewhere in the power amp. I have repeatedly gone over wiring layout, chopsticked stuff to death, soldered and resoldered etc. My power supply is 350/0/350 PT, GZ34 rectifier, 5H 75 ohm choke, 50 uf cap to OT & plate leads, 1K resistor, 50 uf cap to screens w/ 470 ohm R on each tube, then power onwards to the PI and preamp. Power tubes are cathode biased with shared cathode resistor.

    Are there any glaring things I should be looking for? Any help appreciated!

  • #2
    Have you checked the grid voltages to be sure there is no leakage from the coupling caps?
    Other than that, your suspicion of oscillation is a good one. Introduce some NFB and see if it helps.
    Originally posted by Enzo
    I have a sign in my shop that says, "Never think up reasons not to check something."


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    • #3
      Try splitting the shared cathode resistor into two at twice the value. I've seen the DCR of an output transformer cause a substantial difference in plate current. This could be what you're up against.

      jamie

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      • #4
        Or the pair is just so mismatched that one ain't happy with its idle current. Try a different pair of output tubes yet?
        The farmer takes a wife, the barber takes a pole....

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        • #5
          Do you have grid stopper resistors on the power tubes? Something like 1.5k. They have to be mounted right on the grid pins of the tube sockets.
          "Enzo, I see that you replied parasitic oscillations. Is that a hypothesis? Or is that your amazing metal band I should check out?"

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          • #6
            Yea....grid stoppers are always a good idea...as are screen resistors. If you copied a JTM45 directly, it may not have either of those.

            http://www.webphix.com/schematic%20h...5_lead_45w.pdf

            That shows screen resistors, but no control grid resistors.
            The farmer takes a wife, the barber takes a pole....

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            • #7
              Thanks to everyone for sounding off on this. As it turns out, it was a stupid mistake on my part; the inverter is a paraphase, and I accidentally had forgotten to solder one end of the grid leak R on that tube - it's a tight layout and it was easy to miss. I caught it when I left the meter on the plate, watching the lowered voltage, and continued poking around. When I hit that resistor, the voltage was jumping up and down. Silly!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Gtr_tech View Post
                Or the pair is just so mismatched that one ain't happy with its idle current. Try a different pair of output tubes yet?
                The OP mentioned that the problem follows the socket, not the tube.
                "Take two placebos, works twice as well." Enzo

                "Now get off my lawn with your silicooties and boom-chucka speakers and computers masquerading as amplifiers" Justin Thomas

                "If you're not interested in opinions and the experience of others, why even start a thread?
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