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[VikFreeze]

Hi everyone,

i got into guitars just recently so i'm fairly new to playing, so i got me a new electric double neck(for about 200$) to experiment with.

Now i know what your thinking, "double neck that cheap!?", its 100% chinaware but the instrument itself is actually decent.

The issue im having with it is that the volume is the same in about any position up till the end where is abruptly goes mute and the other knob for the tone(im guessing) has no effect what so ever.

Here is a diagram of the wiring.
My guess is that the pots(R) are to high, they measure 500k and are marked BF, the pickups(P) measure about 11.2 - 11.5 k and (S) are 3 position switches that toggle between bridge, neck or both; the third one toggles between the 6 string neck, the 12 string neck or both.



I like the setup, but id like for the pots to have some effects.
So can anyone give me some suggestions for new parts, id also like it if its possible to get an acoustic guitar effect.

Here is the link to the offer if you are interested
Pasadena E-Gitarre - Double Neck - Toppreis - Yatego.com

And the Amp i also got along for the ride
Gitarrenverstrker Amp 15 Watt von Pasadena - Yatego.com

[Enzo]

Hi Vik, welcome to the forum


we have sections here devoted to the guitars themselves. I generally stick to amps, so take this for what it is worth.

One suggestion about drawings - number things. You have four controls marked "R". Make them R1, R2, R3, R4. Same with other parts. Then I can refer to R2 instead of the "upper R that is wired to the two S's."

If your drawing is accurate, then the top guitar and bottom vuitar are wired the same. The R upper left with the C wired to its top end is the tone control. Same deal on the bottom. The second R from the left, the one whose arrow is wired to the switches, is the volume. (See how numbers would help?)

I see three switches. The one on the left is the guitar selector, and the two on the right are the pickup selectors in each guitar. Correct?

Looking at the top guitar, I think they would want you to wire the bottom end of the volume control (and mirror this on the lower guitar) to the pickup selector. Then wire the guitar selector switch to the center leg of the volume.

I leave it for the guitar guys to correct me if I am mistaken.

[VikFreeze]

Hi Enzo,

sorry about the numbering, total noob move there(haven't done electronics for years now and forgot how to do proper drawings), i have made a new one here.

I also wasn't sure if i was posting in the right place, admins feel free to move this post to a better place if needed.



Your interpretations are correct but i don't understand your suggestion because the arrow is the middle pin of the pot(R2 and R4) and its already connected to the pickup selectors. All the selectors work like this: the left and right position of the selector bridge 1-2 and 2-3 respectively and the middle position bridges 1-2-3, also C1 and C2 are encapsulated ceramic with "473J" and some other thing witch i can't decipher written on them, so i have no idea what values they have.
Hope this helps paint a better picture.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions for improvements.

[52 Bill]

Your interpretations are correct but i don't understand your suggestion because the arrow is the middle pin of the pot(R2 and R4) and its already connected to the pickup selectors.

I think what Enzo means is that the output from each of the pickup selector switches should connect to the side of the volume control that connects to the tone control wiper (arrow) and not to the wiper of the volume control. The wire that connects to the neck selector switch should remain as is, connected to the wiper of the volume control.

Wiring it this way will lessen the loading on the pickups.

[Enzo]

Note I said wire the center terminal to the guitar selector switch, not the pickup selector.

[VikFreeze]

Ah, like this?

[Enzo]

That's what I was going for, yes. Try that. SO far no one has told us it was real wrong... Guitars are not my area of expertise.

[VikFreeze]

Well, i did as suggested and it worked, i actually have volume and some tone distortion on the knobs so i give this fix a two thumbs up

It sounds really good now, so im happy with it.

For anyone interested:
You can also find this as a DIY kit to assemble witch might interest pros out there because the body, neck and head are good quality.
If you put in some quality electrics it cam make a really good instrument.

Ready assembled is a good instrument for beginners who don't want to invest in an expensive, quality guitar, bearing in mind this fix and that it requires a little spit and polish here and there to bring out its beauty.(aka the only cons here are the cheap electrics and assembly) but with some time and effort you can have a nice instrument to play with for about just 200$.
While im on this recommendations for beginners joy ride, here is another issue i was confronted with as a beginner: sour fingers from practice; is there no way around this!? most would say "no" but i don't take "no" for an answer.
So i used my black belt grade googleing skills and found the solution:
Original Guitar Fingers - pain protection for sore finger tips

I got myself a heavy glove via post letter from them(Canada,(i live in Germany)), and have been using it to jam harder and longer without sour fingers, im surprised at how good this thing works although putting it on is like putting on a condom 2 sizes to small(and yes i did get the right size glove).

Well i guess that enough spamming since i've gone totally off topic, but i hope this info helps someone and also that the admins move this thread where its more appropriate.

Thanks Enzo and Bill for your help, peace out