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Deluxe Reverb Reissue - 2nd PT Blown... going for THREE!

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  • #16
    Blk to White - Continuity Open - 0 ohms
    Green to Green - Continuity Short - 0 ohms
    Red to Red - 117 ohms
    Ylw to Ylw - Continuity Short - 0 ohms
    Red/Ylw to each ylw - 0 ohms
    Red/Ylw to each Red - 61 ohms and 56 ohms
    Red/Blue to each Ylw - 0 ohms
    Red/Blue to each Red - 64 ohms and 68 ohms.

    I know that Enzo will jump on this, so help us out here and tell us the difference between "Continuity Open - 0 ohms" and "Continuity Short - 0 Ohms".
    0 ohms should represent zero ohms or a dead short, just like holding the two meter leads together. No reading or open circuit or infinite ohms should not be listed as 0 ohms.

    I'm going to guess that the primary windings have opened up, probably due to the internal heat sensor/ fuse. Power transformers heat up for a reason. Find the reason and fix it before you burn out a third one.

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    • #17
      Adding to 52 Bill.... I am starting to see many tranny manufacturers drop the internal fuse link completely... maybe relying on the main line fuse!!
      OK. You guys know who you are that have dug those out of the PT to bypass it!! ha ha
      I can remember days when an internal fuse somewhere in the chassis, had a lower current rating then the mainline fuse.
      Why? I think so some knuckleheaded user wouldn't keep feeding larger and larger current rated fuses into an amp that obviously had a real problem.
      Bruce

      Mission Amps
      Denver, CO. 80022
      www.missionamps.com
      303-955-2412

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      • #18
        Originally posted by 52 Bill View Post
        Blk to White - Continuity Open - 0 ohms
        Green to Green - Continuity Short - 0 ohms
        Red to Red - 117 ohms
        Ylw to Ylw - Continuity Short - 0 ohms
        Red/Ylw to each ylw - 0 ohms
        Red/Ylw to each Red - 61 ohms and 56 ohms
        Red/Blue to each Ylw - 0 ohms
        Red/Blue to each Red - 64 ohms and 68 ohms.

        I know that Enzo will jump on this, so help us out here and tell us the difference between "Continuity Open - 0 ohms" and "Continuity Short - 0 Ohms".
        0 ohms should represent zero ohms or a dead short, just like holding the two meter leads together. No reading or open circuit or infinite ohms should not be listed as 0 ohms.

        I'm going to guess that the primary windings have opened up, probably due to the internal heat sensor/ fuse. Power transformers heat up for a reason. Find the reason and fix it before you burn out a third one.
        I kind of missed that part about the primaries which I assume is black and white. If they are indeed open you are correct on all points.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Prairie Dawg View Post
          I kind of missed that part about the primaries which I assume is black and white. If they are indeed open you are correct on all points.
          0 ohms is a direct short. Does he mean infinite?

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          • #20
            Originally posted by 52 Bill View Post
            Blk to White - Continuity Open - 0 ohms
            Green to Green - Continuity Short - 0 ohms
            Red to Red - 117 ohms
            Ylw to Ylw - Continuity Short - 0 ohms
            Red/Ylw to each ylw - 0 ohms
            Red/Ylw to each Red - 61 ohms and 56 ohms
            Red/Blue to each Ylw - 0 ohms
            Red/Blue to each Red - 64 ohms and 68 ohms.

            I know that Enzo will jump on this, so help us out here and tell us the difference between "Continuity Open - 0 ohms" and "Continuity Short - 0 Ohms".
            0 ohms should represent zero ohms or a dead short, just like holding the two meter leads together. No reading or open circuit or infinite ohms should not be listed as 0 ohms.

            I'm going to guess that the primary windings have opened up, probably due to the internal heat sensor/ fuse. Power transformers heat up for a reason. Find the reason and fix it before you burn out a third one.
            All I was trying to point out is that with my meter set to BEEP when there is continuity or if not SHORT. No BEEP... it is OPEN.
            Then I measured in the resistance setting to get ohm readings.

            If the original bad rectifier wasn't the problem, I am inclined to look at the filter caps. But will test power tubes and take a look at the OT too!

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            • #21
              Doesn't sound like I have to hop on anything. My doctors probably advise against a lot of hopping anyway. SOunds like you have found an open primary.

              CErtainly the 5v and 6v windings will appear like a short - 0 ohms - that is normal.

              Then that RD/Y to Y short is not good. Those two windings ought to be separate. That could have been the cause of the primary opening after it.
              Education is what you're left with after you have forgotten what you have learned.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by glp View Post
                All I was trying to point out is that with my meter set to BEEP when there is continuity or if not SHORT. No BEEP... it is OPEN.
                Then I measured in the resistance setting to get ohm readings.

                If the original bad rectifier wasn't the problem, I am inclined to look at the filter caps. But will test power tubes and take a look at the OT too!
                That didn't clear up anything for me.?.
                "Take two placebos, works twice as well." Enzo

                "Now get off my lawn with your silicooties and boom-chucka speakers and computers masquerading as amplifiers" Justin Thomas

                "If you're not interested in opinions and the experience of others, why even start a thread?
                You can't just expect consent." Helmholtz

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