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  • Crackles/Pops in JCM800 Build

    Hi all,

    Just finished my first amp build, a JCM800 2203 kit from Triode USA, which surprisingly enough worked first try. I've been playing it for a few days and it sounds and plays great, but there are a couple (hopefully) minor issues which came up last night when I was using it. I just installed retainers for the power tubes - not the simplest thing to do after the amp is wired up inside. Put tubes back in, let it warm up for maybe a minute, and turned off standby with no guitar plugged in. Silence for a few seconds, then an intermittent crackling sound, and a couple loud-ish pops which manifested themselves as blue flashes in one of the EL34s. I put it back in standby for another few minutes, then turned back on, silence, plugged in and it sounded fine for about 15-20 minutes of loud playing.

    I've heard about old amps being cranky and noisy for the first few minutes of use, until they warm up properly or whatever, but this guy is brand new. My first thought is a bad connection somewhere, specifically the 1-ohm resistors on the power tubes, which are grounded to the tube socket bolts, which I had to remove and put back on while installing the retainers. I measured 1 ohm from pin 8 of all sockets to ground; could an intermittent connection here cause one tube to pop and spark/flash like that? Also: is there a chance of damage being done to that one tube?

    The chassis has 5 holes pre-drilled for bias test points, which I'm not currently using, but probably will eventually, if only to free up some space around the power tubes. It would also reduce the number of ground connections which could possibly fail.

    Another thing I've noticed about this amp is that when you flip it to standby, the guitar sound fades out as expected, but then if you turn off the mains power a few seconds after, the guitar sound comes back in and then fades out again. I'm guessing this is due to some aspect of the circuit, but I'm interested to know why my other amps don't do it.

    Circuit layout, by the way: http://site.triodestore.com/JCM8002203AV2update.pdf

  • #2
    Sounds like contamination in the EL34 that shifted to bad place when you moved it to do the retainers?
    Experience is something you get, just after you really needed it.

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    • #3
      Hah, figures this thread sits overnight in Debugging Your Build and I get a response within 15 minutes of posting it here.

      I remember which tube it was but didn't have time for any swapping last night; I'll try moving them around tonight and see if anything happens. Also will give me an excuse to get a spare set of EL34s, haven't gotten any because my other amps use 6L6s..

      I'm assuming by contamination you mean debris/some foreign object that I won't be able to get out without ruining the tube? That's my assumption but just wanted to be sure.

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      • #4
        No, you can't get it out!

        Just leave alone. I guess it's evaporated now as it's not causing a problem. Your only other recourse is to replace the tube.
        Experience is something you get, just after you really needed it.

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        • #5
          Well, swapped the affected tube with the one next to it and no problems. I suppose whatever it was may have just evaporated, as you said. Thanks for the helpful knowledge; now anything about this noise after turning the mains off? Just out of curiosity, I don't mind it happening.

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          • #6
            My guess it is something to do with the heaters cooling that shift the tubes' characteristics. A ghost in the machine, as they say!
            Experience is something you get, just after you really needed it.

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