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  • Ampeg Gemini II 2 - 7591 tubes red plating and what not

    This is the mid-60s version. All point to point (the control panel does not have a pcb either).

    Caps - all new, everywhere.
    Resistors - all check good.
    Transformers - check good.
    Power Supply - new diodes, caps, everything.
    Bias pot/cap/resistors check good. Cap polarity observed (+ going to ground)

    Here's the thing: It was working perfectly 100% (after the restoration)... then it started red plating. Bought some new JJ 7591 tubes and still red plated.

    PROBLEM:

    When I measure the B+ my DMM starts clicking profusely like a Geiger counter and I got 513v at A as well as at B. Then I got like 460v at F. Measurement was taken with tubes pulled out. At this time a bright small pinpoint spark appeared just above the rect. diodes and 220K resistor feeding off the HV leg. FWIW, I also measured about 20v B+ when in stand by mode.

    Control Grid (on standby/no B+) = -22v is the other measurement I got before turning it off.

    I really want to avoid turning it back on so... any ideas what could be wrong?

    Question:
    What is up with the .1 cap tying the heater center-tap to ground?


    Thanks!
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  • #2
    Your B+ will naturally run higher with the tubes removed.

    The cap to ground for the heater center tap is just a way of grounding the AC without a direct connection. Hum or ripple will flow through the cap.


    A small brighgt spark is an arc, and will have to be removed. A spark jumps between two places, and the plasma of the spark then acts as a conductor. It will carbonize the surface where it travels. Carbon is conductive, so every trace of that must be ground away. If it happens on a tube socket, it is usually easier to replace the socket. I use my Dremel for grinding away carbon.

    Two tubes red plating or just one?
    Education is what you're left with after you have forgotten what you have learned.

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    • #3
      Both tubes red plating. Takes them about 5 seconds to start glowing.

      I don't see any carbon or trace of the spark. Resistor and diodes still test good... I'll replace them anyway.

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      • #4
        Problem solved!

        After moving some connections around it finally works now. One of the eyelets on the board was conducting from the eyelet next to it- The last filter cap and the anode of the bias diode were apparently conducting through the board material. I simply connected them to different eyelets.

        Thanks for responding Enzo.

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