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  • Marshall VBA 400 repair

    Hi folks

    I am having a little difficulty repairing a Marshall VBA 400 bass head amplifier.
    Initial problem was that it was blowing the output tubes.
    Problem is I have no H.T voltage.

    On the back board I noticed a dry joint on one of the thermistors Ir1 or IR2.
    Also TR1 was shorted TIP30c.
    So I sorted these issues out.

    Now I have voltage from the mains input to the L.T transformer.
    No mains voltage going to the H.T transformer.

    There is a relay before the the stand by switch that must close in order to supply the mains voltage to the HT transformer. This is not closing. I have replaced this still no joy.

    The relay is also related to the small circuit containing the TIP30Cwhich goes to the speaker outputs.
    There could still be a problem here which is not allowing the relay to close.

    I have 50 or so volts on the collector of the TIP 30c, no voltage on the base or emitter.

    Been at this for hours trying to find broken traces faulty components dry joints. Still no luck.

    Is anyone familiar with this amp or this issue that could lend a hand or even if I could understand the circuit better that would be a help??

    If your looking at the attachment direct your attention to the red x at the top middle of the page.
    Also bottom left is where the TIP30 circuit is also relating to the relay.
    Schematic attached also.

    Regards

    Joe




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  • #2
    Where are W26 and W27 at TR1 going?
    Originally posted by Enzo
    I have a sign in my shop that says, "Never think up reasons not to check something."


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    • #3
      Will check first thing Monday.

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      • #4
        It looks like all the relay does is detect whether you have a speaker connected or not. If there is no speaker connected, then there will be no HT available.
        So make sure all the connections to the speaker jack are good and you have a load connected.
        Originally posted by Enzo
        I have a sign in my shop that says, "Never think up reasons not to check something."


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        • #5
          Originally posted by g-one View Post
          It looks like all the relay does is detect whether you have a speaker connected or not. If there is no speaker connected, then there will be no HT available.
          So make sure all the connections to the speaker jack are good and you have a load connected.
          +1 on being certain a load is hooked up properly. Only SS amps can be tested without a load anyway. This is a tube amp. That would be the reason for the relay circuit faulting operation without a load connected. It could also be faulty ribbon connections. It is a big thunderous thing after all.
          "Take two placebos, works twice as well." Enzo

          "Now get off my lawn with your silicooties and boom-chucka speakers and computers masquerading as amplifiers" Justin Thomas

          "If you're not interested in opinions and the experience of others, why even start a thread?
          You can't just expect consent." Helmholtz

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          • #6
            Thanks guys

            Yep it turned out to be no load connected. That's why the relay wasn't switching.
            I was testing this with no output valves installed that's why I didn't connect the load.
            I was just testing for the voltages on the output tubes.

            Great stuff thanks for the help.
            Will defo remember that for the next time.

            Peace!

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