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  • Egnater Rebel 20 Plate V and other issues

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    Working on this Egnater Rebel 20. It presents with sub-octave (ghost) notes, and unwanted distortion and constant low-level hum. Sounds like a fuzz-octave pedal is on playing notes anywhere. My thoughts were bad power supply caps or wonky bias perhaps.

    The issue is certainly in the power amp as the pre-amp out sounds good into another amp.

    Checking plate voltage and bias current shows a problem: All power tube plates are reading ~300vDC. Based on other threads I think they should be ~360vDC? Bias current for 6v6s only -9v m/a with trim pot maxed, EL84's get -18 m/a with trim pot maxed (per tube usuing bias probe).

    Getting 288vAC at QC104/105, then 308vDC on D101 and D102 rectifier diodes, then 308vDC at QC102, then 301vDC at B+3, then 262 B+4.

    Not sure about these voltages? The schematic doesn't indicate what should be happening. Any thoughts? thanks for the help.
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    Forgot to add that I am indeed seeing 60vAC on that QC101 connector. THe rectifier diodes are not open. Is this indicating possibly C126 or C127 is faulty?

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    • #3
      I would check for ripple on the output B+ line. Your plate voltage seems low, possibly caused by poor filtering.
      "I took a photo of my ohm meter... It didn't help." Enzo 8/20/22

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      • #4
        Sorry,......simulpost!

        If you have 60VAC at QC101, I would suspect C127 faulty.
        "I took a photo of my ohm meter... It didn't help." Enzo 8/20/22

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        • #5
          Originally posted by The Dude View Post
          Sorry,......simulpost!

          If you have 60VAC at QC101, I would suspect C127 faulty.
          OK thanks. So this would then drop my B+, bias, etc voltage to that degree? (i.e. apprx 60vDC). I am hoping that replacing the filter caps will get all this back into proper voltage range.

          Also I am getting -65vDC coming out of that bias diode (D203). Not sure if that is correct?

          Also need about 30mm case length for the 100uf and mouser is out. They do have a 120uf in proper size though.

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          • #6
            Your bias supply is a separate supply, so that won't change. Higher B+ will make the tubes conduct more and you should then be able to adjust the bias in range. 120UF should be fine.
            "I took a photo of my ohm meter... It didn't help." Enzo 8/20/22

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