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Thoughts on dropping B+ in Ampeg V4 (another blasted V4!)

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  • #31
    And now you know 17mA is low. And the Vp would probably come into the same range you just dealt with if you biased them a little hotter. If you're replacing the power tubes I'd handle it the same way. The only possible rub would be clipping where the tubes will see considerable voltage dynamics. I blew up a brand new pair of Tung Sol EL34's at 470Vp when the clipping reached a square wave.
    "Take two placebos, works twice as well." Enzo

    "Now get off my lawn with your silicooties and boom-chucka speakers and computers masquerading as amplifiers" Justin Thomas

    "If you're not interested in opinions and the experience of others, why even start a thread?
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    • #32
      V2 B+ is higher than V4 at 595V stock .

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      Last edited by g1; 03-21-2015, 03:00 AM.
      Originally posted by Enzo
      I have a sign in my shop that says, "Never think up reasons not to check something."


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      • #33
        Not sure what to do with this one.......... I was told it "crapped out" during a recording session. Seems to work fine to me clipping at 64W.

        It is all original except the new 470 ohm screen grid resistors someone put in. I put 1K and added a bias pot. Maybe that's it.

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        • #34
          So if 17mA bias gives 585 plate volts, you have about 33% idle dissipation. That would appear to be stock value, do you hear objectionable crossover distortion?
          Was it brought in for a fault?
          Originally posted by Enzo
          I have a sign in my shop that says, "Never think up reasons not to check something."


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          • #35
            Havent' listened to it yet a band is recording

            I put it at 27mA at 578Va and I have set it aside for now. Maybe i'll play it tomorrow.

            Also I realized when putting in the trimpot that R49 is supposed to be 75K and it was changed to 68K. so one more unoriginal part. I think the rest is stock.

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            • #36
              Do the wiggle test on the preamp tubes to check for dirty sockets or bad solder at sockets.
              Originally posted by Enzo
              I have a sign in my shop that says, "Never think up reasons not to check something."


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              • #37
                Originally posted by nsubulysses View Post
                Not sure what to do with this one.......... I was told it "crapped out" during a recording session. Seems to work fine to me clipping at 64W.

                It is all original except the new 470 ohm screen grid resistors someone put in. I put 1K and added a bias pot. Maybe that's it.
                Maybe it was just playing the wrong notes.
                "I took a photo of my ohm meter... It didn't help." Enzo 8/20/22

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                • #38
                  WIll do. Thanks G, and everyone else for your thoughtful comments and nice conversation

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by The Dude View Post
                    Maybe it was just playing the wrong notes.
                    Try that one on the customer:
                    User: "it crapped out"
                    Tech: "maybe it was just faithfully reproducing what appeared at the input"
                    Originally posted by Enzo
                    I have a sign in my shop that says, "Never think up reasons not to check something."


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