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  • Servicing noisy pots on late Fender Pro Reverb Amps---PCB removal insanely difficult

    Finally having located the two Fender Pro Reverb amps in our inventory, neither ever having been in for service, I got one up on the bench and during initial check-out, the 'Normal' Channel's Volume pot was scary with the noise it made turning it. This is one of the late generation Pro Reverb amps...much deeper cabinet, deep chassis, huge power XFMR. NOT built like the older Pro Reverbs or Twin Reverbs.

    When I pulled the chassis out of the cabinet, I was at least pleased not having it lock into place from the aluminum foil on the inside top of the cabinet not peel off and roll up, locking it into place in the process, as too many others do. Upon setting it down onto the lab jacks to support it, I eyeballed the front panel PCB assembly. Ya gotta be kidding me!! You're NOT getting that PCB out of the chassis, the way they designed and built THIS!!

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    There are 24 short soldered-in jumpers across the 0.1" gap separating the main PCB and the front panel PCB, plus vertical components that would prevent you from extracting the front panel board even if you decided to unsolder or just cut all those jumpers. I looked at this a bit, sizing it up, and came to the conclusion there's no way to extract that board without removing the main board. And most of the wiring is all directly soldered into place all over....some wires from the power transformer ARE at least on quick-disconnects, maybe as an afterhought. But...major surgery to even hope to get a pot pulled.

    Trying to seep in Caig DeOxit with a brush at the seam of the pot cover and the resistance wafer was futile, and little success happens spraying thru the tiny open pressed into the cover as the end stops. Not having any small diameter tubing that I could bend to then attach a bent nozzle to the end of the spray can's straight nozzle, I thought about slipping in 22AWG buss wire into the end of the hard plastic nozzle, and apply heat while forcing a right-angle bend with suitable radius. Then remove the wire...it being in place to prevent the small ID from closing during the bending operation. That worked.

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    It was still clumsy getting the nozzle into place with the can mostly on its' side but I was able to spray up inside the pot from the surface of the PCB...enough to spread the solution onto the pot's resistance track while racking the control back and forth. End result was a quiet pot again. It was odd, finding that the pot was very noisy when the amp was set for 1/4 power (rear panel switch), and not noisy in Full Power mode. After cleaning the pot, I checked the current balance and bias level of the two power tubes. Way out of whack....50mA and 23mA, couldn't bring them into balance, so replaced them. Even after that, I still had to tweak the bottom pair of resistors below the two bias pots in order to have enough range for the new tubes.

    So, on this first amp, I did luck out not having to pull any of the PCB's to service it. Hope I'm so lucky on the next one.
    Logic is an organized way of going wrong with confidence

  • #2
    I know that you prefer to remove and rebuild the pots, but in cases like these, there is no justification to remove the pot unless it truly is dead.

    I spray the DeoxIt into the small hole on the back of the pot case that is created when the wiper end stop is stamped into it. But I also have a 6 inch piece of shrink wrap tube attached to a spare red tube that can be aimed almost anywhere.

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    • #3
      Well being upside down on the other side of the world .. ?? I put the amp on supports upside down and utilise gravity to allow the squirts to get home.
      Sometimes this also means I have to get on my knees at the bench and pray to the gods of noisy pots.
      The second sentence I also use in my other role as an infertile couple adviser !

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      • #4
        I managed somehow to get a full 90 degree bend on the "straw", and then added the straw from another can and fastened them together with heatshrink. The extra length makes it easier to manipulate the can into an angle at which it will spray.

        I'm glad we don't have any of that model amp.

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        • #5
          Stew Mac has a pot cleaner for CTS pots. What I have done is take a short length of synthetic gas line tubing & made my own tool which lets me force Deoxit down the shaft to clean a pot. Different diameter tubing works for different pots.
          Drewline

          When was the last time you did something for the first time?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Drewline View Post
            Stew Mac has a pot cleaner for CTS pots. What I have done is take a short length of synthetic gas line tubing & made my own tool which lets me force Deoxit down the shaft to clean a pot. Different diameter tubing works for different pots.
            I do the same thing with hose from the auto parts store across the street. That's a particularly handy way of pot cleaning when you're working on a 32 channel desk rather than removing boards to get at the back of the pots, which can be very time consuming. That auto parts store is handy for a lot of things.
            "I took a photo of my ohm meter... It didn't help." Enzo 8/20/22

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            • #7
              I use a heatshrink extension like 52Bill mentioned, then I insert a length of tag wire in it. Now you can bend the flexible heatshrink however you like, and the tag wire holds the bend.
              Originally posted by Enzo
              I have a sign in my shop that says, "Never think up reasons not to check something."


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              • #8
                I always bend the DeOxit straws.
                Don't even need to heat it.

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