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  • Guild Thunder I farts out when being pushed... PS issues?

    Hey All,

    :: Sorry for reposting! This was originally in the wrong location... ::

    I recently purchased this old Guild amp (schematic below) from a local store. Being myself, I took the hood off to see what they did to make it a functional beast again. They said they changed a couple resistors and some caps. To my surprise, the original can caps are still connected, but they replaced the first (separate) cap that comes off the rectifier. They've also added a cathode bypass (100uF, I think?) to the power stage, perhaps to tighten the bass, but this seems like treating the symptom, not the cause... While I do think the power section of a pair of 6GW8's could stand to gain from a little support there, I think the real problem lies elsewhere.

    Here's the real issue: When I start playing hard at higher volumes, especially with low notes and chords, the amp spits and sputters like it can't get enough juice.

    I have three suspicions as to the cause:

    1) bad filter caps -- Bad caps may lead to some of the crackling and hum I had at one point, or that could just be lights (etc.) bleeding to the bench when it's out.

    2) weak rectifier tube -- A weak rectifier could be either worn out due to age and use, or simply can't provide for the power-sucking bottom end due to electro-mechanical limitations of the 6CA4.

    3) heavily saturated OPT -- The only reason I suspect the OPT is because it seems to be getting a bit warm... warmer than I'd like or even expect. (as a comparison, even my Silvertone 1484 with stock (wimpy) OPT doesnt get that warm after hours of gigging...)

    Any ideas on how to really peg the cause without a spray and pray? Thanks,

    BR

    Guild_Thunder_1_12.pdf

  • #2
    I'd bet you're getting blocking distortion. Notice in the schematic that the OT and the screens are on the same B+! There are NO screen resistors!

    Oh, wait. The 6GW8 is not a pentode, so maybe my idea is not helpful. Hmm...sure wish there were some smart engineers on this board...
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    I build and repair guitar amps
    http://amps.monkeymatic.com

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    • #3
      6gw8 has a smushed 6bq5 and 1/2 of 12ax7 in one bottle...

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      • #4
        I had a similar issue with a Fender Princeton.

        It was a bad cathode cap, so you could try lifting one end of each.

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