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  • #46
    Originally posted by Chuck H View Post
    I'll admit the designation between the two is confusing? The BJ does have an unused triode in it. Looking at the Hoffman layout I see that it too has one and it simply isn't connected to anything, where the PCB Fender has the pins grounded. I'm pretty sure it doesn't matter either way.
    Actually Doug uses both halves paralleled (although in my brain it looks series)lol. He said it adds a bit more gain. I really don't want extra gain since I'm trying to clean it up ,so I can just leave half unconnected ?

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    • #47
      Yes. There are plenty of amps out there with unused triodes.
      "I took a photo of my ohm meter... It didn't help." Enzo 8/20/22

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      • #48
        Originally posted by gtrplayr1976 View Post
        Actually Doug uses both halves paralleled (although in my brain it looks series)lol. He said it adds a bit more gain. I really don't want extra gain since I'm trying to clean it up ,so I can just leave half unconnected ?
        Oh, I see that now. The drawing has a lot of diagonal liney things going on and I just missed it

        By paralleling the triodes without any value changes you get a little lower impedance. This could make for a tad more output and top end because there's less signal lost to any loading. And since impedance rises with frequency, but you're starting point is a lower impedance... You get it. So, it's a stronger and more linear signal. Not higher in gain at face value but less prone to lose anything getting to the next grid. Sort of. That's the VERY simplified version. I don't think that should be the cause of your problem. The exception being if any increase in HF OVERALL is contributing to crosstalk. I doubt it. But I'm also out of ideas right now.
        "Take two placebos, works twice as well." Enzo

        "Now get off my lawn with your silicooties and boom-chucka speakers and computers masquerading as amplifiers" Justin Thomas

        "If you're not interested in opinions and the experience of others, why even start a thread?
        You can't just expect consent." Helmholtz

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Chuck H View Post
          Oh, I see that now. The drawing has a lot of diagonal liney things going on and I just missed it

          By paralleling the triodes without any value changes you get a little lower impedance. This could make for a tad more output and top end because there's less signal lost to any loading. And since impedance rises with frequency, but you're starting point is a lower impedance... You get it. So, it's a stronger and more linear signal. Not higher in gain at face value but less prone to lose anything getting to the next grid. Sort of. That's the VERY simplified version. I don't think that should be the cause of your problem. The exception being if any increase in HF OVERALL is contributing to crosstalk. I doubt it. But I'm also out of ideas right now.
          I didn't think it was the problem either. I had the same problem with the circuit board. Guess I'll try a scope.

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          • #50
            Still trying to track down this noise. I was told of a way to connect a guitar directly to each grid using an input jack ,and a piece of shielded cable. The only thing was at the PI not to connect directly to the grid , but at the input cap. When I did that all I got was static as I increased the guitar volume. Do I have it connected correctly ? Have I missed something ? Does the input jack need to be isolated ?
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            • #51
              FIXED.

              Originally posted by Chuck H View Post
              Oh, I see that now. The drawing has a lot of diagonal liney things going on and I just missed it

              By paralleling the triodes without any value changes you get a little lower impedance. This could make for a tad more output and top end because there's less signal lost to any loading. And since impedance rises with frequency, but you're starting point is a lower impedance... You get it. So, it's a stronger and more linear signal. Not higher in gain at face value but less prone to lose anything getting to the next grid. Sort of. That's the VERY simplified version. I don't think that should be the cause of your problem. The exception being if any increase in HF OVERALL is contributing to crosstalk. I doubt it. But I'm also out of ideas right now.
              Well Chuck. I got it fixed. Embarrassed to say most of it was a bad speaker. Yes I did try another cab. lol..apparently it also has a bad speaker. I'm just glad this headache is almost over. (I hope) On to the next friends project (headache) 60s Gretsch Chet Atkins. I already can't find a schematic. lol

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              • #52
                That would be Gretsch 6160, but please start a new thread.
                Originally posted by Enzo
                I have a sign in my shop that says, "Never think up reasons not to check something."


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                • #53
                  Originally posted by g1 View Post
                  That would be Gretsch 6160, but please start a new thread.
                  Oh absolutely. It is not a 6160. Doesn't even come close to the schematic. Closest one I've found is for the Fury 6169 ,and that one isn't correct either. It's a piggyback with a 1x15 ,and 1x12 cab. Two OTs , and one of the tubes is a 6973. It has 4 x5881s. BUT I will do this on another thread. Thanks g1 !

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