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  • Thermally Conductive Insulating sheets

    Will this stuff work for the average repair involving heatsinking power transistors? Been working on JBL EON speakers and one came back again. The service update says there may be metal shavings in the insulating pad. I'd like to have some bulk sheets around to cut new pieces from. Not sure on the thickness spec. .2mm and .5mm seem common, this one is .2mm.

    http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/...MiFcRBPaD3U%3d

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    This one is .5mm. More than double the price. http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/...RWSSWTXRaoQ%3d

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    • #3
      $26 plus shipping for a 9" x 9" piece of insulator? What the heck is this stuff made of, unicorn mane?
      It's weird, because it WAS working fine.....

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Randall View Post
        $26 plus shipping for a 9" x 9" piece of insulator? What the heck is this stuff made of, unicorn mane?
        Organic, gluten-free unicorn mane

        How many transistor-sized pieces would you make out that? 9" x 9" sounds like a year- to a lifetime- supply of the stuff.
        If it still won't get loud enough, it's probably broken. - Steve Conner
        If the thing works, stop fixing it. - Enzo
        We need more chaos in music, in art... I'm here to make it. - Justin Thomas
        MANY things in human experience can be easily differentiated, yet *impossible* to express as a measurement. - Juan Fahey

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        • #5
          Judging by the JBL repairs it'll last about 2 or 3 repairs. There is a pad in these that is about 6x4"

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          • #6
            Originally posted by lowell View Post
            Judging by the JBL repairs it'll last about 2 or 3 repairs. There is a pad in these that is about 6x4"
            WHAT component has a 6" x 4" case?
            TO54748?
            Juan Manuel Fahey

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            • #7
              All eight devices use one large pad. 4 rectifiers and 4 mosfets.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by lowell View Post
                All eight devices use one large pad. 4 rectifiers and 4 mosfets.
                Well, maybe JBL can afford to throw away unicorn mane in such large quantities. I've only ever seen heatsink-sized pieces in use, maybe 1'' x 1.5" tops. In one sheet, that might take half the 6x4.
                If it still won't get loud enough, it's probably broken. - Steve Conner
                If the thing works, stop fixing it. - Enzo
                We need more chaos in music, in art... I'm here to make it. - Justin Thomas
                MANY things in human experience can be easily differentiated, yet *impossible* to express as a measurement. - Juan Fahey

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                • #9
                  Agreed. However, there are no screws or holes in the heatsink, so the large pad ensures insulation once everything is screwed down into place.

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                  • #10
                    The data sheet for the stuff in your link calls it a phase change material, and gives a "softening" temperature. This sounds fancier than plain old silicone pads.
                    Education is what you're left with after you have forgotten what you have learned.

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                    • #11
                      Right on. Well that's good news. I've asked this question before and couldnt find the thread. Any ideas on where to get silpad type of stuff in sheets or even rolls? Mouser and digi are a mindf÷=/k trying to find it.

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                      • #12
                        Ooh how about this?
                        http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/...U2OmJbfuAcw%3d

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                        • #13
                          More like it.
                          Education is what you're left with after you have forgotten what you have learned.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by lowell View Post
                            The big unknown when replacing heatsink insulators is what level of thermal performance is needed. If you're lucky enough to have a BOM with a (still sourceable) manufacturer's part number, you're golden. Otherwise, the safest approach is to get the most thermally conductive you can justify buying and go from there.

                            I've used this material for a variety of power supplies and amps. It cuts cleanly with a paper guillotine. It's only 35% more expensive than the Sil-pad 400 but its thermal performance is so so much better.

                            http://ca.mouser.com/ProductDetail/L...puo1PO2891Q%3d

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                            • #15
                              Awesome thanks for the info!

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