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  • #61
    Originally posted by nickb View Post
    Or just observe what is happening on then at power up with your scope.
    On the output of the amp?

    Tony

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    • #62
      Originally posted by tonebells View Post
      On the output of the amp?

      Tony
      No. The power rails.
      Experience is something you get, just after you really needed it.

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      • #63
        2.2K across C21 makes the voltage on the output take much longer to drop.

        Tony

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        • #64
          Originally posted by tonebells View Post
          2.2K across C21 makes the voltage on the output take much longer to drop.

          Tony
          If you are going to test that way you're doing it wrong. The 2.2k ( guess at value) purpose is to mute the amp while you turn the power on. With the power still on you disconnect the 2.2k and observe the voltage on the output. The point is you are now un muting at a point in time when the power supplies are know to be stable, so if you still see the 6.5V bounce you can eliminate power supplies as a factor.
          Experience is something you get, just after you really needed it.

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          • #65
            The .5 volt on the output drops as soon as the amp unmutes with no bounce.

            Tony

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            • #66
              Originally posted by tonebells View Post
              The .5 volt on the output drops as soon as the amp unmutes with no bounce.

              Tony
              Ah ha! That tells us the power supplies are causing the bounce. So, you need to monitor the power rails to this channel with your scope at power. Your PC scope, having digital storage is better for this.
              Experience is something you get, just after you really needed it.

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              • #67
                One channel on the PC scope read voltage wrong by about 5 volts but we can give it a try.

                Well today it's working.

                Tony
                Last edited by tonebells; 04-24-2018, 01:11 AM.

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                • #68
                  I have the PC scope setup.

                  Tony

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                  • #69
                    With the +/-36 volts unhooked from the driver board I still get the +5 volts and hum on the speaker output.

                    Tony

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                    • #70
                      I went with my gut and pulled Q9. It test low gain and high leakage. I will most likely not have it back together until tomorrow.

                      Tony

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                      • #71
                        I got it back together and tested for operation. Powered down for thirty minutes and powered up without DC on the outputs. Will try with speakers next.

                        Tony

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                        • #72
                          No hum and no dc on the outputs. Thanks for the help.

                          Tony

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by tonebells View Post
                            No hum and no dc on the outputs. Thanks for the help.

                            Tony
                            Well, not much help in this case - you figured it by yourself
                            Experience is something you get, just after you really needed it.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by nickb View Post
                              Well, not much help in this case - you figured it by yourself
                              It was a great help. I was down to just staring at the schematic. Q10 and Q14 had been replaced before I got the receiver so Q9 and Q13 had been on my mind from the start. Thanks again

                              Tony

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