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    I'm working on this Baldwin poweramp for a GPS2500 http://www.shema.ru/cd/us/2/data/ps2500.pdf
    Believe I have the rails correct now.
    But here is the deal I only have the poweramp board. Where could I input signal at to follow it through?

    Also on the IC's Ic8 has -8.66 on pin1 Does this seem correct?

    Thanks,
    nosaj
    soldering stuff that's broken, breaking stuff that works, Yeah!

  • #2
    In the muting circuit TR1 C is -.001 B is .792 E is .007
    TR2 c is 12 B is .006 and E is -.001
    TR3 C is 5.53 B is 11.68 E is 11.83
    TR4 C is 11.80 B is 11.06 E is 11.83v
    TR5 C is .023 B is .763 E is -.001
    tr15 c is .016 B is .737 E is 0
    R2 has 11.8 volts at pin1

    Something is pulling down the +12 regulator and not allowing the R2 to latch. Still being very Green my eyes say something is wrong with tr3 and tr4
    I did pull them and they tested ok on a bk520 buuut. IDK.
    nosaj
    soldering stuff that's broken, breaking stuff that works, Yeah!

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    • #3
      Originally posted by nosaj View Post
      Where could I input signal at to follow it through?
      At connector CN10, pins IN1 and IN2. At least that's what page 7 of the service manual shows.

      IC8 are the peak detectors so pin 1 would be for peak 1 and pin 7 would be for peak 2. A TL072 dual op amp is powered by in this case +-12VDC so the voltage on pin 1 as well as pin 7 can be anywhere within that range depending on what is present on the input pins from other sources for that pair of op amps.
      ... That's $1.00 for the chalk mark and $49,999.00 for knowing where to put it!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Sowhat View Post
        At connector CN10, pins IN1 and IN2. At least that's what page 7 of the service manual shows.

        IC8 are the peak detectors so pin 1 would be for peak 1 and pin 7 would be for peak 2. A TL072 dual op amp is powered by in this case +-12VDC so the voltage on pin 1 as well as pin 7 can be anywhere within that range depending on what is present on the input pins from other sources for that pair of op amps.
        Will the peak detectors shutdown signal if there's issues?

        Thanks,
        nosaj
        soldering stuff that's broken, breaking stuff that works, Yeah!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by nosaj View Post
          In the muting circuit TR1 C is -.001 B is .792 E is .007
          TR2 c is 12 B is .006 and E is -.001
          TR3 C is 5.53 B is 11.68 E is 11.83
          TR4 C is 11.80 B is 11.06 E is 11.83v
          TR5 C is .023 B is .763 E is -.001
          tr15 c is .016 B is .737 E is 0
          R2 has 11.8 volts at pin1

          Something is pulling down the +12 regulator and not allowing the R2 to latch. Still being very Green my eyes say something is wrong with tr3 and tr4
          I did pull them and they tested ok on a bk520 buuut. IDK.
          nosaj
          I have not checked if all those transistors are PNP or NPN but basically you should have .7 volts base to emitter if they are silicon crystal. Either positive or negative depending on the polarity of the transistors. I was just looking at the board layout and if you have CN11 VIDEO BOARD disconnected detaching jumpers J29 and J47 will completely isolate your +-12 volt supplies from the rest of the board. You then might trace through +-12volt board rails for shorts if your +12V is getting pulled down. Resistance reading alone on the rails can lead to the short or point of excessive current draw, maybe in an IC... like an op amp for example.
          ... That's $1.00 for the chalk mark and $49,999.00 for knowing where to put it!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by nosaj View Post
            Will the peak detectors shutdown signal if there's issues?

            Thanks,
            nosaj
            Well, maybe if I understood what the peak detectors were responsible for in the instrument. I might have an answer... they may only flash an indicator light that a peak state exists... I dunno... that's a big schematic to wade through!
            ... That's $1.00 for the chalk mark and $49,999.00 for knowing where to put it!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Sowhat View Post
              detaching jumpers J29 and J47
              Oops!!! I mean J38 and J40 or... J33 and J36, detaching jumpers J29 and J47 disconnects the rectifier from the regulators, that would be pointless, right?
              ... That's $1.00 for the chalk mark and $49,999.00 for knowing where to put it!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Sowhat View Post
                I have not checked if all those transistors are PNP or NPN but basically you should have .7 volts base to emitter if they are silicon crystal. Either positive or negative depending on the polarity of the transistors. I was just looking at the board layout and if you have CN11 VIDEO BOARD disconnected detaching jumpers J29 and J47 will completely isolate your +-12 volt supplies from the rest of the board. You then might trace through +-12volt board rails for shorts if your +12V is getting pulled down. Resistance reading alone on the rails can lead to the short or point of excessive current draw, maybe in an IC... like an op amp for example.
                Ok will recheck those Transistors and disconnect j38,j40 to isolate. To be sure I'd just connect black probe to ground then starting where j38,j40 were disconnected checking points looking for contiuity? If you can give one example or explain it different once started I can probably go through the rest of it.

                Thanks so much for our help,
                nosaj
                soldering stuff that's broken, breaking stuff that works, Yeah!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by nosaj View Post
                  Ok will recheck those Transistors and disconnect j38,j40 to isolate. To be sure I'd just connect black probe to ground then starting where j38,j40 were disconnected checking points looking for contiuity? If you can give one example or explain it different once started I can probably go through the rest of it.

                  Thanks so much for our help,
                  nosaj
                  I rechecked the voltages on the transistors they are still the same. I replaced IC8 with a new tl072 no voltage on pin1 now. i also replaced IC6 and IC9 the voltage regulators -12 is spot on. The Positive 12 volt rail is still reading low.
                  Still unsure of how to do the following

                  completely isolate your +-12 volt supplies from the rest of the board. You then might trace through +-12volt board rails for shorts if your +12V is getting pulled down. Resistance reading alone on the rails can lead to the short or point of excessive current draw, maybe in an IC... like an op amp for example.

                  Thanks so much,
                  nosaj
                  soldering stuff that's broken, breaking stuff that works, Yeah!

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