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  • #31
    Originally posted by Justin Thomas View Post
    The fake poplar is a weed around here... "junk tree." But very straight grain, not much in the way of knots, super light, easy to split and cut, but for some odd reason I remember it being a total bitch to drill... I found a nice irregularly figured board for the front and back panel of my last build. The sunset orange dye I whipped up covered any green & yellow. I've never seen "real" poplar...
    Tulip poplar *IS* a weed in the Eastern US, and here in the Midwest too. All you have to do is leave a cut branch on the ground and it will take root, causing them to spread like weeds. I can't count how many of those trees I've cut down helping friends to clear the woods on their property so that the weed trees wouldn't take over their walnuts.

    Poplar is a total bitch to drill -- very hard. It's not a softwood like pine, it's definitely a hardwood, though people tend to think it should be a softwood because it reminds them of pine because it's white and cheap. Tough to drill for sure but holds a screw really well. Hackberry is another one of those cheap weed trees that is great for projects. Lots of hackberry around here.

    If Leo Fender had his factory in the Midwest instead of California, chances are that today we'd be talking about the tonal superiority of tulip poplar and hackberry instead of swamp ash and alder.
    "Stand back, I'm holding a calculator." - chinrest

    "I happen to have an original 1955 Stratocaster! The neck and body have been replaced with top quality Warmoth parts, I upgraded the hardware and put in custom, hand wound pickups. It's fabulous. There's nothing like that vintage tone or owning an original." - Chuck H

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    • #32
      Around here the damned elm trees are weeds. Trashy Siberian elms. Although most of my back 20 acres is ash.
      Education is what you're left with after you have forgotten what you have learned.

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      • #33
        if you've got a big ash, Enzo, I say you should cut one down, have it cut into 8/4 body blanks, and sell them to the regulars here on the forum. that way everybody could build an Ash Tele that came from Enzo's back 20. I'd love to have one. That would be probably be the only thing better than owning a Fahey plexi or a whoopee cushion with your face on it.

        Seriously, I would do it. We could have an Enzo's Ash Build-Off.
        "Stand back, I'm holding a calculator." - chinrest

        "I happen to have an original 1955 Stratocaster! The neck and body have been replaced with top quality Warmoth parts, I upgraded the hardware and put in custom, hand wound pickups. It's fabulous. There's nothing like that vintage tone or owning an original." - Chuck H

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        • #34
          Y'know, a lot of city people see a lot of nice wood trees and think "I'll cut those down and sell the wood." They don't know there is a standing timber tax to pay. I have no idea what my 20 acres would be taxed, if at all.

          There are some medium size ones, but almost all of them are 40 years old or less. I moved out there in 1973, and it was mostly open field. It has reverted to forest over the last four decades. I haven't walked out back in a long time, not sure how large they are.

          Never thought about guitar parts. I am selling the land this month in fact. I will look at the trees. If any look like candidates, I am sure no one will miss a tree or two.
          Education is what you're left with after you have forgotten what you have learned.

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          • #35
            I used to know a guy who had a portable sawmill. He'd tow it in behind his truck, cut down a tree or two, and split the lumber with you. No charge.
            "Stand back, I'm holding a calculator." - chinrest

            "I happen to have an original 1955 Stratocaster! The neck and body have been replaced with top quality Warmoth parts, I upgraded the hardware and put in custom, hand wound pickups. It's fabulous. There's nothing like that vintage tone or owning an original." - Chuck H

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            • #36
              Originally posted by bob p View Post
              The type of joint that Mick recommended is called a "rabbet".
              Over here in England we call that a rebate. There are quite a few differences in terminology when it comes to construction and woodworking; What you call a jointer we call a planer. What you call a planer we call a thicknesser. A dado is used here to refer to a groove cut across the grain, and a housing is the traditional term for one cut along the grain. It's interesting to watch 'This old house' and hear the differences - we call 'siding' cladding, baseboards are skirting boards....

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Mick Bailey View Post
                Over here in England... There are quite a few differences in terminology...
                That reminds me of a comedian I saw (British). I have to use phonetic spellings to get his bit across. Regarding differences in American and British pronunciation he said something like:

                Like here in America, you say garage' and we say gar'age. You say erb and we say herb... Because there a f#@k!ng h in it.
                "Take two placebos, works twice as well." Enzo

                "Now get off my lawn with your silicooties and boom-chucka speakers and computers masquerading as amplifiers" Justin Thomas

                "If you're not interested in opinions and the experience of others, why even start a thread?
                You can't just expect consent." Helmholtz

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                • #38
                  How do you pronounce 'Laboratory' Chuck?
                  It drives me nuts when I hear Americans say it. There's an 'o' in it

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Mick Bailey View Post
                    Over here in England we call that a rebate. There are quite a few differences in terminology when it comes to construction and woodworking; What you call a jointer we call a planer. What you call a planer we call a thicknesser. A dado is used here to refer to a groove cut across the grain, and a housing is the traditional term for one cut along the grain. It's interesting to watch 'This old house' and hear the differences - we call 'siding' cladding, baseboards are skirting boards....
                    Thanks for pointing that out. I never knew that so many of our woodworking terms were so different from yours. Like they say, we're two countries separated by a common language.
                    "Stand back, I'm holding a calculator." - chinrest

                    "I happen to have an original 1955 Stratocaster! The neck and body have been replaced with top quality Warmoth parts, I upgraded the hardware and put in custom, hand wound pickups. It's fabulous. There's nothing like that vintage tone or owning an original." - Chuck H

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Dave H View Post
                      How do you pronounce 'Laboratory' Chuck?
                      It drives me nuts when I hear Americans say it. There's an 'o' in it
                      Every proper 'mad scientist' pronounces it like Boris Karloff: la BOHR uh torey.

                      we also mispronounce the name of our Labrador Retrievers, without using the "o". But it works out OK -- the dogs don't care.

                      edit: I guess there never was an "o" in "Labrador Retriever." My bad. Lucky me, the dogs can't spell and they don't know that I can't spell either.
                      Last edited by bob p; 04-05-2018, 11:36 PM.
                      "Stand back, I'm holding a calculator." - chinrest

                      "I happen to have an original 1955 Stratocaster! The neck and body have been replaced with top quality Warmoth parts, I upgraded the hardware and put in custom, hand wound pickups. It's fabulous. There's nothing like that vintage tone or owning an original." - Chuck H

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                      • #41
                        How do you pronounce 'Laboratory' Chuck?
                        It drives me nuts when I hear Americans say it. There's an 'o' in it
                        Oh that is a slippery slope argument there.

                        Tell me how you pronounce Worcestershire? Or Cholmondeley?

                        There sure is an H in herb, just like there is in 'ello, guv...
                        Education is what you're left with after you have forgotten what you have learned.

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                        • #42
                          Hey wait. We say: "LAB rah torry". You say "la BOHR uh tree". We leave out the first o, and you leave out the second. I;d say we are even.
                          Education is what you're left with after you have forgotten what you have learned.

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                          • #43
                            You are even indeed, the original Latin word has two fully pronounced "o" : Laboratorium , meaning "place where you work" .
                            Juan Manuel Fahey

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                            • #44
                              But Juan, we know you're a mad scientist -- so you have to be pronouncing it like Boris Karloff, right?
                              "Stand back, I'm holding a calculator." - chinrest

                              "I happen to have an original 1955 Stratocaster! The neck and body have been replaced with top quality Warmoth parts, I upgraded the hardware and put in custom, hand wound pickups. It's fabulous. There's nothing like that vintage tone or owning an original." - Chuck H

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Enzo View Post
                                Oh that is a slippery slope argument there.

                                Tell me how you pronounce Worcestershire? Or Cholmondeley?

                                There sure is an H in herb, just like there is in 'ello, guv...
                                Why Wuss-ter and Chum-lee of course

                                I try not to drop aitches (there's no h in aitch) as my surname is Harris but 'alf the population over 'ere calls me 'arris and the other 'alf 'arrison. I've always been called Dave but it says Colin D on my passport. In the USA they call me Cole-in not Koll-in as we say over here. Anyway, no one mangles the English language better than the English. I live less than 30 miles south of Liverpool and I can hardly understand a word they are saying.

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