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  • Laney LA65C now repaired

    Hi Everyone,
    Not sure if this is the right way to post this but here goes.
    After completing the repair on a Kustom Sienna 30 I moved on to a Laney LA65C which appeared to have issues with the output IC.
    Before replacing the TDA7294 I thought it might be prudent to check if there were any other obvious faults which could push the repair cost into the "not worth it" column.
    Sure enough the voltages emanating from the power supply were incorrect, in fact half of the 25V supply from the transformer was missing. The transformer looked OK, no signs of overheating and the diodes (measured in circuit) also didn't show any issues.
    Luckily the secondary wires inside the insulation of the transformer were readily accessible and it was soon found and seen that one half of the secondary winding had a very poor connection. No stress on the wires was apparent so wound a few turns of fine copper wire around each connection, resoldered, checked and re-did the insulation. Transformer now working!
    Fitted a new output IC and hoped that would be the end of this repair, but unfortunately there was no audio out into the speaker.
    Traced the wiring from the output board back to the control board but could not find any possible issue. Not being familiar with this amplifier I did some further checks and head scratching and found that when a jumper was soldered across from the send to the return jacks sound was once again audible. No amount of pushing, tapping and twisting would bring back the sound when the jumper was removed. Looked for hairline cracks in the tracks of the circuit board but all to no avail, then with the aid of a signal tracer I located a crack in a connection between a resistor and the circuit board track. The resistor was held in position with epoxy glue so it couldn't move and I guess that because of this solid fixture with the glue the connecting wire of the resistor broke away from the circuit board track when stressed by heat or movement.
    Anyway with the aid of some fine copper wire a good connection was achieved and the amp roared back into life.
    But what caused the IC to go to heaven? Did the poor transformer connection cause sparking and send spikes down the HT lines or did the IC just give up the ghost?
    I'll let the amp run on test for a day or two and then return it to the customer.

  • #2
    Originally posted by Mickey View Post
    But what caused the IC to go to heaven? Did the poor transformer connection cause sparking and send spikes down the HT lines or did the IC just give up the ghost?
    We can speculate endlessly on why something failed and may never hit on the real reason. Sometimes stuff just fails, though some of the integrated amp chips are susceptible to unbalanced power supply voltages and the missing half of the power supply may be a reason.

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    • #3
      You usually never know. What if you plugged a speaker cord into it six months ago, and the cord happened to have some static charge on it. This could damage the IC but leave it working. But some time later, it goes ahead and fails. No way you would ever associate something that happened six months ago with this failure. Plus you were never aware of the static thing at the time. Best not to worry about the WHYs.
      Education is what you're left with after you have forgotten what you have learned.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Mick Bailey View Post
        We can speculate endlessly on why something failed and may never hit on the real reason. Sometimes stuff just fails, though some of the integrated amp chips are susceptible to unbalanced power supply voltages and the missing half of the power supply may be a reason.
        I think you're on the right track, as I believe the power supply issues may have caused the output IC to break down. Mike

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        • #5
          Hi, I have the same problem with my LA65C, no power output so I suspected that the TDA7294 was faulty. I replaced it with a new one but when I turned on the power it exploded, I checked the input voltage and it is correct 26 volts, what could cause it to explode, are there several versions of the TDA7294 with other supply voltages?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Lopo View Post
            .... what could cause it to explode, ...
            Is the chip of high quality? Did you put the chip on the heatsink with a gasket? Is the chip body insulated from the device body?

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            • #7
              +26 Vdc on pin # 7 & #13.
              -26Vdc on pin #8 & #15
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              • #8
                The chip was bought on ebay and is probably not of the best quality, but should still not explode immediately after applying voltage, the body is isolated from the heatsink.

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                • #9
                  If the power supply has large ripples, then the microcircuit dies when turned on.
                  I had this happen, both capacitors lost their rating. The tester showed the average voltage value.​

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                  • #10
                    TDA7294 are readily available from reliable electronic components distributors (mouser, digikey, etc.). There is no reason to take a chance on ebay where there are so many fake parts being sold.
                    And yes, fake parts may blow up as soon as powered up.
                    Originally posted by Enzo
                    I have a sign in my shop that says, "Never think up reasons not to check something."


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