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  • Acoustic b260 mkII no DI

    Got an Acoustic b260 mkII with no DI. Not Finding a schematic anywhere on this.

    Once I verify signal is going to the DI board and hitting the jrc4560d.

    What I am supposed to see on the DI is 2 signals(one inverted) and a ground right?


    Thanks,
    nosaj

    Also what protects a DI when it doesn't require the 48 phantom voltage? Input diodes
    Last edited by nosaj; 10-30-2018, 03:51 AM.
    soldering stuff that's broken, breaking stuff that works, Yeah!

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    Slightly confusing post
    Originally posted by nosaj View Post
    Got an Acoustic b260 mkII with no DI.
    What does it mean: it has no DI output and youŽll build one or it has one which doesnŽt work?
    Not Finding a schematic anywhere on this.
    Once I verify signal is going to the DI board and hitting the jrc4560d.
    Ok, supposing you do have a DI circuit (on its own miniboard?)youŽll have to check functionality.

    Active DI are NOT true balanced and floating outputs which is what a transformer one does, but a simulation of it, sort of.

    They are really one preamp out, maybe straight from preamp or going through an Op Amp, feeding pin 2; plus a unity gain inverting section, made out of an Op Amp connected as an inverter, with typically 10k and 10k NFB resistors, feeding XLR pin 3 .

    So you have two Op Amp gain stages, one with gain=1 and the other with gain= -1 , feed signal and check how each one works on its own.

    To begin with, each one must have 0V DC at its output pin.

    Then if you feed it , say, 100mV RMS, you must find 100mV RMS at each output.
    If not,trace signal path to see where itŽs lost.

    Pin 1 may be directly grounded or separated from it with a switch called "Ground Lift", because ground is NOT required if device at other end is truly differential.

    What I am supposed to see on the DI is 2 signals(one inverted) and a ground right?
    See above: you must find original signal injected at each Op Amp output.
    And of course nothing on ground.

    If a sinewave, you wonŽt see "one is inverted", both will look like a plain sinewave.

    Also what protects a DI when it doesn't require the 48 phantom voltage? Input diodes
    ??????
    The balanced out stage does not *need* +48V 7mA , quite the contrary, but may fail or misbehave because of such voltage and current, so caps and resistors are essential, and diodes add protection.
    Juan Manuel Fahey

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    • #3
      My apologies Juan. The DI was not outputting signal. They do recording with this amp so I thought it might be a possibility they connected the DI to a PA with phantom voltage engaged. But when I pulled the board out and started probing with the scope I found and electrolytic with a busted trace. Repaired trace and voila working DI now.

      nosaj
      soldering stuff that's broken, breaking stuff that works, Yeah!

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      • #4
        Oh, no need for apologies in any way.
        Simply the first question was dubious and I asked for clarification.
        Happy it works now
        Juan Manuel Fahey

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