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  • Ampmaker WF-55 squeal

    Hello all.

    I have finished my Ampmaker WF-55 amp build and have been testing before plugging anything in.

    I am getting a high pitched whistle through the speaker. The volume pot does not change the volume of the squeal, although there may be a slight change in pitch.

    It is way too loud to ignore.

    If I waggle the GT 12AX7R (Sovtek 12AX7WC) pre-amp tube the squeal changes, but does not disappear. It starts once the tubes have had 30 seconds to warm up a bit. If you tap the tube with a pencil, there is no change.

    I assume I have dud pre-amp tube. However, as I am in testing mode, could it be something else?

    I will get myself a spare 12AX7, but I would appreciate any alternative theories.

    Cheers

    Steve

  • #2
    Schematic?
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    • #3
      http://www.ampmaker.com/images/ak00kit/ak00sc2.jpg

      http://www.ampmaker.com/wf-55-constr...ual-842-0.html

      I assume you have meticulously checked every wire and component? If so, then pull V1 and see if that helps. If it does that put it back and connect V1 pin 7 to ground with a short wire. What happens?
      Last edited by nickb; 03-07-2020, 10:21 PM.
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      • #4
        It's supposed to be basically a 5F1 Champ, so first thing I would try is disconnecting the feedback wire from the speaker jack.
        edit: looks like feedback wire goes to 4 ohm tap rather than speaker jack.
        Originally posted by Enzo
        I have a sign in my shop that says, "Never think up reasons not to check something."


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        • #5
          Originally posted by nickb View Post
          http://www.ampmaker.com/images/ak00kit/ak00sc2.jpg

          http://www.ampmaker.com/wf-55-constr...ual-842-0.html

          I assume you have meticulously check every wire and component? If so, then pull V1 and see if that helps. If it does that put it back and connect V1 pin 7 to ground with a short wire. What happens?
          If you pull v1 squeal free.

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          • #6
            ^^That, and if this stops the noise reverse PT primary wires.

            Edit: Typo, meant OT not PT!
            Last edited by Helmholtz; 03-08-2020, 02:05 PM.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by nickb View Post
              http://www.ampmaker.com/images/ak00kit/ak00sc2.jpg

              http://www.ampmaker.com/wf-55-constr...ual-842-0.html

              I assume you have meticulously check every wire and component? If so, then pull V1 and see if that helps. If it does that put it back and connect V1 pin 7 to ground with a short wire. What happens?
              V1 pin 7 goes to pin 2 of the vol pot. Do you mean disconnecting if from the pot, or adding the short ground wire and leave the connection to lug 2 on the pot?

              Thanks for help.

              Steve

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Helmholtz View Post
                ^^That, and if this stops the noise reverse PT primary wires.
                What will that do?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Steve Blackdog View Post
                  What will that do?
                  I might change undesirable positive feedback to correct negative feedback by phase reversal.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Helmholtz View Post
                    I might change undesirable positive feedback to correct negative feedback by phase reversal.
                    I see, thanks!

                    I have heard of people swapping the wire around on the OT.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by nickb View Post
                      http://www.ampmaker.com/images/ak00kit/ak00sc2.jpg

                      http://www.ampmaker.com/wf-55-constr...ual-842-0.html

                      I assume you have meticulously checked every wire and component? If so, then pull V1 and see if that helps. If it does that put it back and connect V1 pin 7 to ground with a short wire. What happens?
                      Hi Nick,

                      I added a short wire to v1 pin 7. Made no difference. Tomorrow I will try swapping the wires from the PT.

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                      • #12
                        Yes, swap the wires to the primary of the output transformer (OT).
                        O is next to P, it was a typo.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Steve Blackdog View Post
                          Hi Nick,

                          I added a short wire to v1 pin 7. Made no difference. Tomorrow I will try swapping the wires from the PT.

                          Ok Great. The ojective was to eliminate wiring errors and/or pickup in the wire to pin 7. Onward and upward!
                          Experience is something you get, just after you really needed it.

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                          • #14
                            I have heard of people swapping the wire around on the OT.
                            Sorry, PT was a typo. Of course I meant the OT and my explanation refers to this. Swapping PT wires would have no effect.

                            (Excuses: weak eyes, foreign language/abbreviation, late at night e un po di vino rosso.)
                            Last edited by Helmholtz; 03-08-2020, 06:21 PM.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by pdf64 View Post
                              Yes, swap the wires to the primary of the output transformer (OT).
                              O is next to P, it was a typo.
                              BINGO!!!

                              I swapped the OT primary wires and the squeal has disappeared. Plugged in the guitar. Really really pleased with it!

                              Thanks for your help folks.

                              Cheers

                              Steve

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