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Ok if I recap a 8uf bias cap with 47uf ? (Traynor YGM-3)

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  • #16
    Originally posted by nickb View Post
    At this point the OP is probably banging his head on the workbench wondering what he did to cause all this. I liked my original answer. "It'll be fine"
    Originally posted by Helmholtz
    To the OP the difference is an estimated 15s or a simulated 10s bias ramp up.
    That's what I thought at first, without any math. Just make sure you let the amp warm up sufficiently before switching standby to 'GO' mode, and all will be well. Plus a reduction in background hum which is often a bugaboo with lightly filtered bias supplies.
    This isn't the future I signed up for.

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    • #17
      I found PSUD2 to be a convenient tool to simulate the bias ramp up. As expected I could fully confirm nickb's results.
      (Also gave me reason to read up on Thevenin equivalents. Thanks again, Nick!)
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      • #18
        How many extra seconds for the 47uF compared to the 8uF? I think I'm mis-reading post #15.
        Originally posted by Enzo
        I have a sign in my shop that says, "Never think up reasons not to check something."


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        • #19
          Originally posted by g1 View Post
          How many extra seconds for the 47uF compared to the 8uF? I think I'm mis-reading post #15.
          See post #12 for the answer. It depends on what you define as the measurement point 90% of final value, or 10% to 90%, or.... There's a graph so you can chose your points.

          PS: The executive summary is that after 10 seconds they are pretty much the same.
          Last edited by nickb; 04-14-2020, 10:27 PM.
          Experience is something you get, just after you really needed it.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by g1 View Post
            How many extra seconds for the 47uF compared to the 8uF? I think I'm mis-reading post #15.
            From Nick's simulation in post #12 (green curves) it looks as if it takes less than twice as long with the 47µ to reach an intermediate voltage value as compared to 8µ.

            E.g. -20V is reached after 5s with 8µ and after 9s with 47µ.
            Last edited by Helmholtz; 04-14-2020, 10:23 PM.
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            • #21
              Got it. Thanks guys.
              Originally posted by Enzo
              I have a sign in my shop that says, "Never think up reasons not to check something."


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