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  • Lost power in Vibrato Channel Bandmaster

    Hi Everyone,

    I have a '68 BF Bandmaster, and while playing it I suddenly have very low volume on the Vibrato Channel, maybe 1/20th of what it should be. The Normal Channel works fine. The tone controls affect the volume somewhat, but not the tone. Vibrato controls work fine, but still weak. I've swapped the tubes, they're fine.

    I've checked the Voltages around V2, and here's what it reads:

    Pin 1 - 287 V (265 is spec)
    Pin 3 - 2.3V
    Pin 6 - 278 V (275 is spec)
    Pin 8 - 2.2V

    Is this pretty normal? Seems like it.
    Also was able to measure some of the nearby resistors, and they seemed accurate. I really don't know what step to take next. Capacitors? Any other suggestions? Thanks in advance!

    Dan

  • #2
    Which Bandmaster ?....AC568, AA763, AB763, 6GC7-A....etc.

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    • #3
      If the DC voltages are OK, then it is time to trace the signal through the amp and see where it quits. If there is signal on one end of a cou0pling cap and not the other, then that cap is open. Look for caps with broken lead wires too. And of course interstage resistors can open, and so can pots.
      Education is what you're left with after you have forgotten what you have learned.

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      • #4
        Sorry, it's a '66, AB763 circuit.
        And yeah, it looks like it's time to trace the circuit. I'm relatively new to this, although I'm fairly good with electronics (was able to replace filter caps and cord), so any resources, links, that would help me understand signal flow in this circuit would be really helpful (although I have a crude understanding). one question is this - if testing the pots, i'm testing for voltage, not ohms, correct? (i've already tested the pots for resistance). Thanks so much!

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        • #5
          It's worth checking dc voltages at V4 too.

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          • #6
            V4 is the phase inverter? Doesn't that share with the Normal channel?

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            • #7
              Aha! Er yes, sorry ...I was thinking Bandmaster Reverb, which came out later than '66.

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              • #8
                I would check the vibrato LDR. Unsolder and remove the center wire from the intensity pot. This will remove any effect the vibrato has on that channel.

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                • #9
                  Thanks, I'll try that. The vibrato does work, only weak like the rest of the channel. I tested the LDR with my DMM and it did respond to my flashlight, but I'm not sure what the full range should be (light vs. dark). But yeah, I'll unsolder the vibrato intensity and see what happens.

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