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Trying to revive a "dead" Peavey Express 112 - got some sound when pots/jacks unscrewed?!

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  • Trying to revive a "dead" Peavey Express 112 - got some sound when pots/jacks unscrewed?!

    Hey everyone,
    New forum member here! I recently rescued an old teal-stripe Peavey Express 112 combo off the street. I get no sound, unless I crank the lead channel to max - then I can just barely hear a heavily distorted guitar tone. Plugging into the FX return gets me loud and clear amplification of a line signal, making me think that the power amp is fine. Everything looks fine - no swollen caps or visibly burnt-up resistors/etc. I cleaned all of the pots with deoxit, no crackle/etc. I pulled the board out and nothing looks bad underneath.

    While I had the board out of the chassis, I added a socket for the one op-amp that had none. I powered it up before I fastened down all of the pots and jacks and I was able to get intermittent sound out of the amp! It cut in and out if I touched anything, making me think it was shorting/grounding. So I tightened it up and... it was right back to no sound.

    Now I'm confused. I'm thinking I'll start checking if any pots or jacks are shorting to ground somehow? Anyone see this kind of behavior before? What would you do next?

    Thanks!

    P.S. Who is me? I kinda know a little of what I'm doing, but I'm no engineer. I took electronics at a vocational HS in the late 90's, and I tinker/make stuff/fix stuff and teach kids "maker" skills. I play guitar/bass and dabble in production, but am way more into making/fixing gear than I am in being a competent musician.
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    I'd take a bright light and go over the PCB looking for bad solder or broken traces. If tightening down on the board flexes it enough to 'open' a connection, that'd be the symptom that presents: no sound. So touching the board while it's out makes the sound come and go (did I understand that right?) would be applying small flexes that match the symptom.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by eschertron View Post
      I'd take a bright light and go over the PCB looking for bad solder or broken traces. If tightening down on the board flexes it enough to 'open' a connection, that'd be the symptom that presents: no sound. So touching the board while it's out makes the sound come and go (did I understand that right?) would be applying small flexes that match the symptom.
      Ohhh right on! I didn't think of the board flexing being a possible cause, and to be honest I didn't look that closely at the underside of the board. I will inspect tonight! Thanks!

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      • #4
        Before soldering anything, plug a spare cord from FX send to FX return. Does that restore sound?
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        • #5
          Jusbot..... Not sure which version of the Express 112 you have. But here is a Express 112 Schematic 1991 Version.
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          • #6

            Originally posted by Enzo View Post
            Before soldering anything, plug a spare cord from FX send to FX return. Does that restore sound?
            YEP! Worked like a charm with the FX jumped. I realized that when I had the board loose in the chassis it was shorting out all sorts of stuff, hence my intermittent sound.

            Return jack needs replacing.
            Last edited by jusbot; 12-07-2020, 02:34 AM.

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