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  • Packing up to move back down the street......sigh

    This past Wednesday, still with the Vox Beatle on the bench and getting to the last circuits needing awakening and tweaking, I was told I would have to pack up the shop and move back down the street to the other building where my shop has been. After being here in the main building were all of the assets are that I service, where there is a staff who can assist me in getting equipment down from the shelves that need to be serviced (preventative maintenance), as well as just lifting the HEAVY amps from the floor or road case on up to the bench, as these 71 yr old bones are starting to creak. Not to mention NOT having to wait for an available truck and driver to send over the gear that needs immediate attention. And, at my original shop, size being 33ft by 10f, with 72" x 36" benches and 12" deep shelves lining the two long walls, there's NOT much space in there. Ever day there, I'd have to haul the road cases and gear out of the way blocking the floor and out into the hallway to line the wall out side my shop (often joined by road cases by clients in the two adjacent studios in the hallway) in order to have walking space to work in there.

    Now that summer is officially here, the temperature is now in the 80's to 100's here in the east end of the San Fernando Valley. In this current building where they moved all of their rental inventory as well as the administration offices there's air condition, so it's comfortable. No Air in the shop down the street, and only if there are clients who are in the three studios there, would there be air conditioning turned on, and I'd get whatever spillover comes in from the hallway.

    The upshot.....I DON'T want to move out of here. This is efficient, being WHERE the EQUIPMENT IS, and where there is staff to assist as needed. Where there are road cases and hand trucks to help move the gear and set gear on to add to the work-bench space. The space they carved out for me is part of where the acoustic pianos are stored. When they shut down the New York operation, all that inventory came back here to Burbank, CA. My being in the 'piano storage area' is now being deemed a problem, and they need to retask that space they gave me, as there are a lot of pianos, both set up as well as on their sides, in cases, occupying the large aisle that runs the length of the warehouse. The amount of work I was getting done being down the street from where the gear is was very slow and unpredictable, and, of course, had financial impact on what I could get done in a month.

    That news Wednesday hit me like a ton of bricks. I did at least get the Vox Beatle finished. I still have to do all of the billing, which I started on this morning when I came in.

    I've got a lot of work to do at the other shop, which is overun with boxes of tubes and gear that grew on the last bench in the room, as the rule of available horizontal space has applied for the past 11 yrs there. Ugghh. I wanted to just go home and go fetal until it all went away. It hasn't.

    Monday they need to have the gear out of here, as there's a crew coming in to run an additional fire sprinkler system into this space that was built when they moved into the building a couple years ago. Nothing was done to augment the sprinkler system up in the ceiling of the building when they build this keyboard loft/storage area, so now, they have the go-ahead to install the system, and I'm in the way in more than one way. I heard that was coming, but it sounded like it wasn't going to impact my being here. That's what changed. RATS! So far, I haven't injured myself in lifting heavy gear up onto the bench, but every time I have to do that, I have to grab hold of the loft and pull my body back erect as I'm feeling that strain every time. THAT has me worried, as there's NOBODY in that building were my shop is to assist me. No idea what the legal aspects is on that. I trade 20 hrs labor a month for being there to do their work (and other client work, when it's available). What if I get injured?

    So, I'm in that packing phase, and will loose a week in this, while gear that clients need ASAP have no idea this has just descended upon me.
    Last edited by nevetslab; 06-27-2021, 12:22 AM.
    Logic is an organized way of going wrong with confidence

  • #2
    That sucks, Steve! Probably not helpful, but have you considered opening your own shop? What happens if you quit? Do you have leverage? Can your employer fill your role? Sorry, I hear my wife's voice: "Have you considered ALL the possibilities?"

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    • #3
      So, you do all this work for some company?

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      • #4
        They really should hire an apprentice for you. Maybe they just have no idea all these issues they put upon you.
        When the going gets weird... The weird turn pro!

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        • #5
          And that kind of mess is exactly why I will never work for someone else ever again.
          It's weird, because it WAS working fine.....

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          • #6
            Back in 1983 I worked for a television repair shop, (GTVR it was called) and I had to travel 30 miles each way just to pick up my service calls and fell out with the managers because they had no idea how to manage a busy workshop. Walked into one of their show rooms with a colour tv in my arms, the door shut abruptly on me and I dropped the tv.
            It landed in many pieces. I shouted, "I quit" and left.
            Worked for myself and within 6 months, had a 1500sq foot unit in a street we called Millionaires Row on our local industrial estate, employed 7 engineers, employing two drivers to collect repairs from the north and the south.
            I retired 30 years later and now have a small repair shop specialising in valve gear, because that is my passion.
            Work for someone ... na!
            Support for Fender, Laney, Marshall, Mesa, VOX and many more. https://jonsnell.co.uk
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            • #7
              Hi Steven,

              Sorry to hear about your current situation. I worked for a company that kept changing management because of acquisitions and reorganization of the overall management structure. Eventually, all the significant decisions were done by people who did not understand the work being done on site. So...I understand the frustration you feel about the orders you have received.

              Regarding the heavy object moving and lifting requirements, you may want to consider getting a mobile lifting table. I have used units similar to those shown in the following links:
              https://www.ebay.com/itm/373086946814
              https://www.harborfreight.com/500-lb...art-61405.html
              https://www.walmart.com/ip/CasterHQ-...duct/583966265

              I hope this works out for you.

              Cheers,
              Tom

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              • #8
                Originally posted by drewl View Post
                So, you do all this work for some company?
                As an independent contractor, I've been doing their equipment maintenance as well as other clients, though way too few. A business man I'm not. I think it was in 2014 when the company was still facing bankruptcy, they were letting me go, and I managed to strike a deal with them to remain in that 33ft x 10ft shop space by 'paying for the space with 20 hrs labor a month, after which all work for them was billable hours, and that would cycle to 0 hrs each month and start over. As their work thinned out, I began a preventative maintenance program, having a very through data base on when/what was serviced, and that was good for another year and a half or so, and repeat that cycle ever couple years. Now I've finally started into the loudspeaker inventory, began that in Nov 2019, until the Pandemic shut everything down.

                They were able to open their doors again on a limited basis in July 2020, had leased the building where my shop space is, so they moved me over to their new building down the street, which turned out far more efficient, being there where the work is, with staff who can assist in fetching/lifting, where there's hand trucks and road cases that can be used for rolling work surfaces.

                Not having a solid client base to sustain me, moving out to a commercial space to do this, I'd be bankrupt and in far worse shape in no time flat. So, I'm in the process of moving out since mid-day yesterday. Should get most of the small stuff that can be moved in my car done today and early tomorrow, while I'll need their staff, truck with lift gate to move the rollaround tool chest. Their maintenance engineer has my drill press in his shop, so I'll have to get that back into mine again, though no rush there.

                I had one of those rolling lift tables at BGW Systems (it was theirs, of course), and I've thought of that. But, I'd have to pay for it....they have a crew to do that sort of thing.

                I do need to restore the small work station I set up Nov 2019 to resume loudspeaker maintanance. I loaned out my 24" x 36" shop cart I had built, it's someplace in their complex, and would work just fine for that small work station, and keep that over there. No way would I consider filling the hallway with speaker cabinets to check out.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by xtian View Post
                  That sucks, Steve! Probably not helpful, but have you considered opening your own shop? What happens if you quit? Do you have leverage? Can your employer fill your role? Sorry, I hear my wife's voice: "Have you considered ALL the possibilities?"
                  They're not equipped to set up their own maintenance shop there. My leverage is the 12+ years experience with their gear, my detailed data base and service records of everything I've done....all that's mine, NOT theirs. When I was hired on, it was as an independent contractor, and they were looking for someone like me who was fully equipped as I've been for decades. There are several shops in the area that I could look into as far as leaving them, and basically come on board with a huge client. I do have the freedom here to come and go as I need to. Having finally been on site where everything is right there, the efficiency is prime. Reverting back to the problems when they moved their inventory space from across the street (we're on both sides of the street with our rehearsal studios/storage lockers/artist relations offices) to another building down the street and around the corner (walking distance), the only way to get equipment to me is by one of their trucks and a driver. Then, I can only handle half a dozen pieces or more at a time, due to no place to store them other then out in the hallway from my shop. When I leave, all has to be rolled/carried back into the shop, and rolled back out the following day so I have space to move around in. Terribly inefficient!
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Tom Phillips View Post
                    Hi Steven,

                    Sorry to hear about your current situation. I worked for a company that kept changing management because of acquisitions and reorganization of the overall management structure. Eventually, all the significant decisions were done by people who did not understand the work being done on site. So...I understand the frustration you feel about the orders you have received.

                    Regarding the heavy object moving and lifting requirements, you may want to consider getting a mobile lifting table. I have used units similar to those shown in the following links:
                    https://www.ebay.com/itm/373086946814
                    https://www.harborfreight.com/500-lb...art-61405.html
                    https://www.walmart.com/ip/CasterHQ-...duct/583966265

                    I hope this works out for you.

                    Cheers,
                    Tom
                    YUP.....very similar to what i had at BGW Systems. I could afford two of them right now, though that's one more large footprint that has to be accomodated in my small shop space. Keeping it outside the shop between having to use it, our studio clients would be taking it from me, as all too often, I was fielding the questions of "do you have a dolly or cart we could borrow"? Thanks for putting that back into my mind.....hadn't thought of it until just this week when I was given the life-changing news.
                    Logic is an organized way of going wrong with confidence

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                    • #11
                      Well I hope things work out somehow.

                      One small thing, maybe bring your own little ac unit?

                      I had one under my bench at one company before my lab was set up.
                      Even that blowing cool air on me helped very much.

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                      • #12
                        Sorry Steve for the issues.
                        Probably not what you want to hear, but sounds like time to retire!
                        GL,
                        T
                        **I worked 42 years for a large Corp., I still have nightmares. lol
                        "If Hitler invaded Hell, I would make at least a favourable reference of the Devil in the House of Commons." Winston Churchill
                        Terry

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                        • #13
                          Just thinking aloud and in no particular order:
                          * was chiming in to suggest what Drewl did: one of those small AC units on wheels, no need to fully "cool" air inside but pull humidity out of the air andmake air more breathable, that alone is worth it.

                          * make the lack of space work against them, in a passive aggressive way if you wish: your WORK space is NOT a STORAGE space.
                          , I can only handle half a dozen pieces or more at a time, due to no place to store them other then out in the hallway from my shop. When I leave, all has to be rolled/carried back into the shop, and rolled back out the following day so I have space to move around in. Terribly inefficient!
                          Do not work on 12 pieces at a time (you canīt anyway).
                          Work on 1 or 2 and the others *stay with them* until their turn arrives.
                          You work on 1 or 2, nothing waiting outside your shop, when you finish THEY have to send somebody to pick it (from the benchtop) and bring another ... carefully placed BY THEM on your benchtop.
                          IF they leave something in the hallway, it stays there, all night, unattended.
                          I bet they will quickly realize that after all the old arrangment was best *or* they add some storge space to yout workshop.

                          * just curious and you are free to not answer, Iīm only asking because "money runs the World":
                          - Do they use those 20 hours servicing you pay rent with?
                          - do they need extra (billed separately) work?
                          - do you currently have "independent" customers/cashflow to justify keeping that shop?

                          * how far away is your home? - do you have spare garage space or a small shack where you can work? - is workspace available nearby for a reasonable fee? Lumping these 3 together because all aim at the same problem: do you *need* them?
                          Juan Manuel Fahey

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by drewl View Post
                            Well I hope things work out somehow.

                            One small thing, maybe bring your own little ac unit?

                            I had one under my bench at one company before my lab was set up.
                            Even that blowing cool air on me helped very much.
                            I actually have one there, but.....there's no place to run the hot exhaust. My band had it at my apartment, and I was able to vent it thru a custom made window slot, but at the shop....no such luck. I just use it as another cooling fan.
                            Logic is an organized way of going wrong with confidence

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by big_teee View Post
                              Sorry Steve for the issues.
                              Probably not what you want to hear, but sounds like time to retire!
                              GL,
                              T
                              **I worked 42 years for a large Corp., I still have nightmares. lol
                              When I die, I have retired. Until then....hi ho, hi ho, it's off to work we go..............no funds to retire on.
                              Logic is an organized way of going wrong with confidence

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