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  • #46
    IC1 pin1 you have 0VDC, yet at pin5 you have +12.8
    I don't see any path for DC to be coming in between those 2 points, so not sure what is going on there.
    If it is socketed, just pop it out and see if pin5 still has the DC voltage on it.
    Originally posted by Enzo
    I have a sign in my shop that says, "Never think up reasons not to check something."


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    • #47
      There is always the internal path. If IC1 is internally shorted, od voltage can appear on an input pin.
      Education is what you're left with after you have forgotten what you have learned.

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      • #48
        With IC1 removed Pin 5 is at +16VDC.
        Again interesting red peak LED (D1) no longer lights up, although green signal LED flashes briefly at turn-on...
        I'm not old - I'm vintage

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        • #49
          I see no path for DC to pin 5 absent an IC. ANy chance you have a solder bridge somewhere?
          Education is what you're left with after you have forgotten what you have learned.

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          • #50
            I thought I had checked that when I installed the socket, but with my shaky hands & poor eyesight there is certainly a chance. I'll check again.
            Thanks for not giving up on me.
            I'm not old - I'm vintage

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            • #51
              No continuity between any combination of pins at IC1. Only Pin 10 is grounded, as it should be if I read schematic correctly.
              Self esteem at a new low LOL.
              I'm not old - I'm vintage

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              • #52
                Do more checking with the IC1 removed. Any DC on the gain pot P1 ? Which side of R10 has more DC, or both sides same?
                Originally posted by Enzo
                I have a sign in my shop that says, "Never think up reasons not to check something."


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                • #53
                  A short need not be on the socket, what if the trace to pin 5 is next to some unrelated trace from somewhere with 16 volt on it?
                  Education is what you're left with after you have forgotten what you have learned.

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                  • #54
                    @ g1 no DC on gain pot P1... forgot to check R10 sorry - will check after dinner

                    @ Enzo found a little whisker of solder around IC1 and...

                    TP2 is now +0.04 TP3 now -0.03 Pin5 IC1 now +0.02 and peak LED no longer on - is this progress?
                    I'm not old - I'm vintage

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                    • #55
                      That's great progress. You don't have to worry about DC on the P1 pot or R10 anymore.

                      What are DC voltages at TP's 4,5, &6 now?
                      Originally posted by Enzo
                      I have a sign in my shop that says, "Never think up reasons not to check something."


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                      • #56
                        Well, between messages I tested P1 - no DC... & R10 was 0.037 one side & 0.048 other side. These are really small resistors, 1/8 watt?
                        Going back out again for TP 4 5 6
                        I'm not old - I'm vintage

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                        • #57
                          TP4 +9 TP5 +19 TP6 +19 - so no change there...
                          I'm not old - I'm vintage

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                          • #58
                            With IC1 removed, what is DC at pins 12,13, and 14, also TP5 and 6.
                            Originally posted by Enzo
                            I have a sign in my shop that says, "Never think up reasons not to check something."


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                            • #59
                              IC1 out - Pin 12 0.0V Pin 13 0.0V Pin 14 -0.14V
                              TP5 +4.6V TP6 -7V
                              I spent an hour studying the schematic - all I learned was I should stick to tube amps, sigh
                              I'm not old - I'm vintage

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                              • #60
                                Well, the good news is that IC1 pin14 (TP4) seems to be causing the IC2 problems, so once you get TP4 straightened out, TP5 and 6 should be good.
                                Forgot to ask for IC1 pin 12 and 13 voltages with IC1 installed, please measure them.
                                Originally posted by Enzo
                                I have a sign in my shop that says, "Never think up reasons not to check something."


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