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thanks steve, this randall 200 watt bass amp is my amp that a freind gave to me, i want to try to fix this for myself as an electronics project. fixed quite a few amps previously, mainly just small things main caps replacement faulty transistors, bad ics etc, but my signal generators gone on the flck, so im wanting some ideas from anyone who has come up against this particular problem before, maybe give some possible checks so i can isolate an area just to save me some time! ive checked the amp against other bass quads of a similar confiquration, still same outcome. out put is 22.2 mv.appreciate some help with this project!!