A little voodoo?

[tedmich]

I don't want to slag the super audiophiles too much here, but I was looking at an interesting high end audio component seller, Michael Percy Audio in CA, who has some stuff that I might actually buy, diamond die drawn pure Ag wire, cast Cu single crystal wire, beeswax and paper capacitors (and some likely not-$$$$!).
Michael Percy Audio Ordering Information
He sells something called a Quantum Purifier by Bybee Technology, see here:
BybeeTech - Quantum Purification

to quote Bybee "
I led an R&D team under contract to the Navy. The original project was to eliminate quantum-level noise in the battery power supplies of nuclear submarines, which was interfering with their extremely sensitive passive sonar systems. That led to numerous additional military applications as well as the kind of consumer applications with which I'm currently working."

they are $80 each, but quantum purity must be priceless...

has anyone ever been prosecuted for fraud with stuff like this? Seems like a safe and lucrative business model, I'll just remove the mirrors in my palatial house.

[Chuck H]

Unless I'm wrong the quantum noise issues with navy sonar are below 10hz. I don't know if what Bybee is doing now applies to the audio spectrum or not. But I do know that there is less than .05% distortion on some very high end audio gear that has been proven to be due to inherant short commings in semiconductors, transformers, etc. This is measured by test equipement designed to work in the audio range. If there is an issue with quantum noise it must be below this .05% level or it would be a common part of audio design discussion. So I have to wonder what kind of wonderful audio system and test equipement Bybee must be using to be able to hunt down this quantum noise.

Just a thought.

Chuck

[Enzo]

Bybee Quantum Purifiers operate on the quantum mechanical level to regulate the flow of electrons that make up the signal (picture a metering light regulating freeway traffic flow).

WHat, pray tell, is the "quantum mechanical level?" We dearly love to stick the word "quantum" in all kinds of things to make it sound up to date and scientific, don;t we?

We are going to mechanically regulate the flow of electrons? Interesting feat. Of course a toggle switch does that, now that I think of it.

Current flow within the Quantum Purifier is unimpeded and ideal (think of the unencumbered flow of traffic on a lightly traveled expressway).

I see, so this thing runs on superconductors? Does it require liquid nitrogen?

During transit through the Quantum Purifier, quantum noise energy is stripped off the electrons, streamlining their flow through ensuing conductors. Unwanted quantum noise energy dissipates as heat within the Quantum Purifier rather than emerging as a layer of contamination residue over the audio/video information.

Perhaps it can also rejuvenate tired electrons - electrons that no longer have the will to fight the resistance they face?

[Robert M. Martinelli]

....Perhaps it can also rejuvenate tired electrons - electrons that no longer have the will to fight the resistance they face?

Nah, they've probably miniaturized either a manager/team leader to motivate them, or a tamer with a whip to make them pass through....

Cheers

Bob

[Enzo]

Ve vill haff zeez elektrons marching in goose step in no time.

[txstrat]

[Chuck H]

I find it interesting that gold is sighted for it's "uniquely natural sonic properties". Gold has no audio properties other than not having properties. It's the best for contact plating because it has good conductance and doesn't corrode. Great stuff. But consider that it's soft so it wears quickly. So that is a downdside. Other than that there is no REAL benefit to gold that I know of. Other standard conductive materials sealed in a proper solder joint last and conduct better than the components themselves can perform. So whats the point in using gold? And as I said, gold wears quickly. Most of the gold contacts I've seen on jacks and switches was already worn through when I saw it. So that's not gold any more, is it? Unless Bybee is using SOLID gold cotacts, it's the same old snake oil.

Gold shmould...

Chuck

[tedmich]

its really fraud with very little risk; what snooty audiophile is going to admit to buying these


for $4500 and then admit you were ripped off?

Its like the Doc who sold the fake boner pills and made disgruntled customers get documentation from a doctor that they were sexually inadequate. Like homeopathy but with a higher profit (though not profit margin...sugar is way cheap).

Anyone want to put a business model together? I am a Scientist and can spout tech drivel quite well....


"Super Strings Dampening Buckyball Sacks" anyone?

[Enzo]

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[txstrat]

Hey guys, stop goofing around.
I think this is as serious as the fact that somebody can hear a musical difference between burned cd's on a data cd blank or a audio cd blank. (although I believe only wifes can hear this level of loudness and frequencies).

[Robert M. Martinelli]

Hey guys, stop goofing around.
I think this is as serious as the fact that somebody can hear a musical difference between burned cd's on a data cd blank or a audio cd blank. (although I believe only wifes can hear this level of loudness and frequencies).

Hi Matt!
I can't help myself smiling and goofing around when I hear such crap....
Now, about the data CD blank/Audio CD blank issue.....The process of home burning CDs involves changing the crystalline structure of the media surface to simulate the "pits" of a "factory" CD ( which is "pressed", not "burned" ). In either case, the result is the same, and you get tons of "0"s and "1"s to be sent to the DAC. As long as the CD is good, you'll get the same sequence of "zeroes" and "ones" out of it, ( which means you'll get the same sound out of the DAC ).

I have a pretty decent ear, and I have built some Hi-Fi gear myself in the past, and I'm pretty much convinced that, past a certain border, if there's a difference that instruments can barely detect/show, then even the most educated ear on this planet cannot tell it ( unless ALL audiophools are aliens living among us....OK, I'll add a disclaimer "the above applies only to humans" ).

I'm convinced that most audiophools claims are pretty unreasonable, as they involve "mine is bigger than yours" or "status symbol" issues ( the beautiful, hand-made wooden box Ted showed us, probably worth more than its content, is there to prove it ) , and this to me is light years away from being scientific.

I strongly suspect we live in a world where "boxes" and "blurb" have become more important than "contents", ( and this is applies to us humans as well ). If so, may God have mercy of us, as we're probably going nowhere.

Cheers

Bob

P.S. I agree, women ( and especially wives ) have a very good ear ( though I'd better say antennas )...Days ago I was ( very quietly ) talking with a friend about buying another guitar, and my beloved wife, ( which was on another floor ) went "WHAT????"

[txstrat]

Bob,

after I read my post again I must tell you got me completely wrong.
I was trying to be sarcastic but somwhow I didn't make myself clear enough.
If I had used those opening words of my post (...stop goofing...) I would consider that as impolite and I always (well, at least most of the times) try not to be impolite.
I totally agree with you. Nobody with a human ear can hear/detect the difference. That's why I added the wives phrase.

cheers

Matt

[Robert M. Martinelli]

Hi again, Matt!
I'm the only one to blame, having heard about the "data CD blanks vs. audio CD blanks" issue before, and due to my poor grasp of the English language I got you wrong, missing to "catch" the sarcasm behind your post!

My apologies!

Cheers

Bob

P.S. Oh, and the little story about my wife's absolutely true! ( I'm starting to think I married an alien or...are ALL women aliens ? )

[tedmich]

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EXXXcellent!

now to fire up the buckyball machine (arc welder and electrolux) and make up some fruitwood boxes. Would a German or Italian company name be better? Something Scandinavian? The company name is VERY important, even more so since none of the technology is!

[Chuck H]

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