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  • #16
    Originally posted by mooreamps View Post
    No special reason. Perahps I could say the coil helps isolate the switching noise from the diode, but I use the fast recovery diodes. I've also done this on one HV supply for my 813 project, but that was to keep the voltage stress off the part. In this case, 1.4 KV.

    -g
    So you think there is less voltage across the rectifier if one side is connected to ground?

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Albert Kreuzer View Post
      So you think there is less voltage across the rectifier if one side is connected to ground?
      Not the point.
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      Moore Amplifiication
      mooreamps@hotmail.com

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Wilder Amplification View Post
        For the sake of being different.
        No. For the sake of doing it correctly.

        -g
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        Moore Amplifiication
        mooreamps@hotmail.com

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        • #19
          Originally posted by mooreamps View Post
          Not the point.
          Thought so. Would you please care to explain what the point is? Just curious.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Albert Kreuzer View Post
            Thought so. Would you please care to explain what the point is? Just curious.
            No special reason. Just the way I do it. For a bias supply, it probably does not matter. But, for a 1.4 KV Beam Power Supply, it tends to be my preferred method.

            -g
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            Moore Amplifiication
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            • #21
              Originally posted by mooreamps View Post
              No special reason. Just the way I do it.
              Ah, OK. Thanks. I was just wondering about the "doing it correctly" thing...

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Albert Kreuzer View Post
                Ah, OK. Thanks. I was just wondering about the "doing it correctly" thing...
                I take it you don't build high voltage power supplies in that kind of power range , or higher. Oh, perhaps you're assuming I only work on guitar amps..

                -g
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                Moore Amplifiication
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by mooreamps View Post
                  I take it you don't build high voltage power supplies in that kind of power range , or higher.
                  You're right, I don't.
                  But I'd like to learn how to "do it correctly", just in case. Can you give me any information or links on that subject?

                  Originally posted by mooreamps View Post
                  Oh, perhaps you're assuming I only work on guitar amps..
                  I'm not assuming anything. What else do you work on?

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Albert Kreuzer View Post
                    You're right, I don't.
                    But I'd like to learn how to "do it correctly", just in case. Can you give me any information or links on that subject?

                    I have no idea what he means by "correctly". Doing it the traditional way yields the same end result as the other way with no tradeoffs of any kind so technically BOTH ways are the "correct" way.
                    Jon Wilder
                    Wilder Amplification

                    Originally posted by m-fine
                    I don't know about you, but I find it a LOT easier to change a capacitor than to actually learn how to play well
                    Originally posted by JoeM
                    I doubt if any of my favorite players even own a soldering iron.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Albert Kreuzer View Post


                      I'm not assuming anything. What else do you work on?

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                      • #26
                        Impressive.
                        I especially like the term "cryo cooled". Sounds somewhat comparable to "thermally heated"...

                        And for the information on "doing it correctly"?

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Wilder Amplification View Post
                          I have no idea what he means by "correctly". Doing it the traditional way yields the same end result as the other way with no tradeoffs of any kind so technically BOTH ways are the "correct" way.
                          Yes, I know (I think). The only reason I can imagine is a single diode screwed to the chassis for cooling - you wouldn't have to isolate it from 1.4kV.
                          But who knows, maybe I'll learn something new

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Albert Kreuzer View Post
                            Impressive.
                            I especially like the term "cryo cooled". Sounds somewhat comparable to "thermally heated"...

                            And for the information on "doing it correctly"?
                            Perhaps a poor choice of words given the question asked. I use the RCA manual and Fender schematics as a baseline, and then go from there.

                            -g
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                            Gary Moore
                            Moore Amplifiication
                            mooreamps@hotmail.com

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Albert Kreuzer View Post
                              Yes, I know (I think). The only reason I can imagine is a single diode screwed to the chassis for cooling - you wouldn't have to isolate it from 1.4kV.
                              But who knows, maybe I'll learn something new
                              Sansui used the same technique on some of their tube audio amps. No, not for an 813 beam power supply; but for their twin EL-34 power amp units.

                              -g
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                              Moore Amplifiication
                              mooreamps@hotmail.com

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                              • #30
                                With as little current as is being drawn from a typical bias supply cooling isn't even a factor worth considering.
                                Jon Wilder
                                Wilder Amplification

                                Originally posted by m-fine
                                I don't know about you, but I find it a LOT easier to change a capacitor than to actually learn how to play well
                                Originally posted by JoeM
                                I doubt if any of my favorite players even own a soldering iron.

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