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Junkbox amp. Pentode driving low mu triodes, and SE parafeed output.

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  • Junkbox amp. Pentode driving low mu triodes, and SE parafeed output.

    I'm preparing to tryout building a small 1-5W amp out of junk. I don't have many suitable high mu triodes, but I've got loads of med-low mu triodes, and lots of small signal RF pentodes. I read on valvewizard.com about how you can get different distortion in the preamp triodes depending on whether they are hot or cold biased. I also noticed you appear to get more distortion out of high current, low gain triodes like a 12AU7.

    So, I was thinking of a clean pentode first stage that would overdrive a med-mu triode. I'd try to keep the pentode totally clean and undistorted so it doesn't color the sound, then pass the signal through 3 stages of cold biased low mu triodes, dumping most of the gain and driving each successive triode just barely into clipping so I get a nice bluesy overdrive. Then, for the output, a single ended 6GC5 with a gain control pot that I can go from clean to overdriving the hell out of it. I can play with the bias to get the right amount of edge out of it. Unfortunately, I don't have a SE OT handy. I'm going to get a little Hammond 125BSE in the future, but for now, I have a 12.3 VCT power transformer. I calculated that with 8 ohms on this side, the mains side would present 2.2k to the 6GC5, which should work well for it. I'd connect it resistance coupled with a DC blocking cap.

    Once I get that up and working, I'd like to add a cathode follower stage from a med-mu triode to drive a three knob tone stack. So, if I use twin triodes, 2 tubes will give me 3 distortion stages and one tone driving stage.

    Tube complement 1 6688A or 6AU6A, 2 6GU7 or 6BQ7, 1 6GC5

    I'd appreciate any comments at all, or leads of known schematics to look at for inspiration. I know the AC15 and the Gibson Les Paul Jr used pentode input stages.
    I'm especially interested to know if anyone else has tried a clean pentode first stage for gain to overdrive a small signal triode.

    Finally, what do you guys use to draw schematics?

    Thanks!

  • #2
    Looks like you have some good ideas here. I say start breadboarding and see how it sounds!

    I have an amp project on my bench waiting to be built that uses a 6GH8a as the preamp tube- triode driving the pentode, pentode setup to add coloration and compression. The pentode will use a low plate resistance and drive a TMB tone stack and volume directly. This drives a long tailed phase inverter and a 2x6v6 output section with plate voltage a little under 400 volts.

    I'm hoping it'll achieve a bit of that ac15 compression sound and grit with the clarity and bass of an american output section. If it sucks the turret board is versatile enough to build other things that I know will be usable.

    jamie

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