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  • #16
    I'm willing to give anyone a freebie for a first shot. I was even trying to teach walters/markphaser at first back in the day.

    So, playing straight man:

    1) Title : Signals
    I read that “Impedance depends on Frequency Of Signals” What does that mean? Do Signals have Impedance in themselves?
    No. Signals do not have an impedance themselves. This refers to the fact that the impedance of a capacitor is Xc = 1/(2*pi*F*C) and the impedance of an inductor is Xl = 2*pi*F*L. So the impedance of a capacitor goes down as the signal frequency goes up, the impedance of an inductor goes up as frequency goes up. Why this happens is the subject of a semester or two of physics.
    2) Title : Tubes
    It’s said Cathode is charged with “-“ and Anode is charged with “+”. When filament is heated electrons flow from cathode to anode. When this movement is done cathode should be charged with “+” and anode should be charged is “–“ Isn’t it?
    The cathode and anode are "charged" by an external voltage source, like a battery. With the battery (+) connected to the anode and the battery (-) connected to the cathode, any electrons boiled off the cathode are attracted to the (+) voltage on the anode, so a current flows. The phrase "charged with" implies something outside the tube doing the charging. Without that, nothing happens.

    It’s said then electrons in the anode go “-“ terminal and after that “+” terminal of the battery. When the anode is charged with “-“ how those electrons go “-“ terminal of the battery? (Because “-“ push “-“)
    The battery acts like an electrical pump, sucking in electrons at the (+) end and pushing them out the (-) end, with a "pressure" equal to the battery voltage.


    3) Title : Signals
    Are Current and Signals the same thing? How does current include information about signals in it?
    A signal may be a current, a voltage, or the interrelated movement of a current and a voltage at the same time. Signals are actually **information**, and that information is encoded as a presence/absence or variation of current, or the presence/absence or variation of voltage. Signals (that is, information) may be encoded many different ways. Current is not signal, voltage is not signal, but they may be used to transmit a signal, just like American Indians used smoke signals to carry infomation.

    4) Title : Amps
    When the amp is off does an electric guitar still send signals to the amp when played?
    Yes, the guitar makes a signal whether or not the amp is on. If a tree falls in the forest and there is no one there to hear it, does it still make a noise? Of course it does.


    5) Title : Electricity
    How are Electrical devices activated when we pushed the “on” button?
    This completes an electrical circuit allowing a battery or other power supply to start pumping electrons in the circuits. These power supplies have ony a certain maximum voltage "pressure" and if the switch is insulating enough to prevent that pressure from forcing current through it, the device does not work. When the switch allows current through, the device becomes activated.


    6) Title : Speakers
    Are diaphragm, speaker cone and the driver the same thing?
    No. "Diaphram" refers to only the part that moves the air. "Speaker Cone" is a loosely defined term, usually indicating the diaphram, the voice coil and other parts that hook it up to the speaker basket/frame. "Driver" is a generic word for "speaker" or just the speaker part of a horn.

    7) Title : Electric And Magnetic Field
    “Therefore, they are inter-related in a field called the electromagnetic field. In this field, the electric field and the magnetic field move at right angles to each other However, they are not dependant on each other. They may also exist independently. Without the electric field, the magnetic field exists in permanent magnets and electric fields exist in the form of static electricity, in absence of the magnetic field.

    Wherever there is electricity, there also electric and magnetic fields, invisible lines of force created by the electric charges. Electric fields result from the strength of the charge while magnetic fields result from the motion of the charge, or the current.”

    These two paragraph contradict each other? Don’t they?
    No.

    If I use a machine to pile up electrical charge on an object, the object has an electrical field as a result. This is YOU when you walk across a carpet in dry air and have static electricity spark from your finger to something else. Static (literally "not moving") electricity has an electrical field but no magnetic field. And changing voltages have changing electrical fields but no magnetic fields if no current is flowing.

    If current flows, there is a magnetic field generated as a result of the current flow. There may or may not be a voltage involved in getting this current to flow.

    When you have both a changing voltage and a changing current, you get a changing electrical field AND a changing magnetic field. This combined electrical and magnetic field may radiate into space as a self-supporting electromagnetic (or radio) wave. Getting conditions just right to get this electromagnetic field to radiate away is what antennas are about. Antennas match the circuit impedance to the impedance of free space so some of the energy in the circuit can escape into free space more easily.

    So the paragraphs are not contradictory - they are complexly interrelated.

    8) Title : Usage Of Capacitors
    Power Supply Smoothing : This is the easiest and very widely used application of a capacitor. If you stick a big beefy electrolytic capacitor (the bigger the better), it will fill in all the gaps created by rectifying an AC form, to create a relatively smooth DC. It works by repeatedly charging during the peaks, and discharging during the gaps. However, the more load you put on it, the quicker it wil drain the capacitor and the more ripple you’ll get”

    8.1) Why there are gaps and peaks whilst rectification?
    Read "Power Supplies Basics" at geofex.com.

    But even more simply, to get DC out of AC, you have to use rectifiers. Rectifiers allow current to flow only one direction. While the diode is allowing current to flow from an AC source to a load, the voltage which gets to the load is much the same shape as the AC waveform, so there is a low start, high middle, and low ending to each half cycle. This leaves peaks, and gaps between them. Caps store energy up to the peak, then leak it out to the load until the next peak, smoothing over the valley.

    Timing : If you supply power to a capacitor through a resistor, it will take time to charge.
    Well, it's more complicated than that. A resistor allows a current to flow when there is a voltage across it. We know this as Ohm's law: V = I*R, or I = V/R. If you supply a voltage V to a capacitor C through a resistor R, then the instant you connect them, the voltage across R is V, because the cap is at 0V. So a current of I = V/R flows. But the capacitor stores the current as I = C dv/dt, or dv= I/C*dt. So the cap voltage rises, and that leaves less voltage across the resistor, and the current in the resistor goes down.

    This is a classical first semester physics item. The voltage on the cap rises by 1/e for each time constant of R*C seconds after you do the math.

    If you connect a resistive load to a capacitor, it will take time to discharge. The key thing to understand here about timing circuits is that capacitors appear as though they are shor circuit while they are charging, but as soon as they are charged, they appear to be open circuit.”
    These two items are true only for the instants of starting a charge and ending a charge. In between is ..., well, in between.

    8.2) How do capacitors do the Timing job?
    As above. I = V/R I = Cdv/dt => dv/dt = V/R*C, so you must do the integral to come out with a time varying expression for dv/dt.

    Filtering : If you pass DC through a capacitor, it will charge and then block any further current from flowing. However, if you pass AC through a capacitor, it will flow. How much current flows depends on the frequency of the AC, and the value of the capacitor.
    A filter capacitor is an electronic component that removes voltage or signal spikes in electronic circuits. Capacitors are used as filter devices due to their ability to absorb and effectively store electrical charges at predetermined values.”

    8.3) When capacitors are charged don’t they transmit the current?
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    Capacitors store charge. In fact, capacitance is *defined* as the ratio of the charge stored to the voltage it creates, or C = Q/V.

    This brings up an interesting point: when is a capacitor "charged"? There is no universal end point. Charged has to mean "has all the voltage that the external electrical pump can pump in". So "charged" has to mean that there is no more voltage/current to put in, so no changes are happening.

    By definition, "AC" means that signal is continuously changing, so by its very nature, AC **can not** charge a cap to completion. It's always changing. So AC will flow.
    Amazing!! Who would ever have guessed that someone who villified the evil rich people would begin happily accepting their millions in speaking fees!

    Oh, wait! That sounds familiar, somehow.

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    • #17
      I'll read all you've written and examine today. Thank you all very much for your contribution.

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      • #18
        I do want to reinforce some of the suggestions you have already received.

        I do not mean this as criticism, but the nature of your questions indicates that you have very little electronics background. We all started at that point.

        I urge you to go learn some basic electronics. The internet makes it appear that one can simply read some forums and learn a complicated subject, like electronics. However, the knowledge you get this way is very "thin", and has no basis or foundation for real understanding. Even if you get an answer to some specific question, you have no framework of underlying knowledge to place the answer in, so the bits of knowledge are not connected, and do not help you in answering the next question.
        Amazing!! Who would ever have guessed that someone who villified the evil rich people would begin happily accepting their millions in speaking fees!

        Oh, wait! That sounds familiar, somehow.

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        • #19
          We try to help, but I do agree with RG. To me the questions asked are about the same as asking "tell me how to play guitar." There is no simple answer.
          Education is what you're left with after you have forgotten what you have learned.

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          • #20
            Thank you very much R.G. I understood most of the answers. Thank you all very much for help. I wrote down suggested books.

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