Split 2 signals, micing a head or combo to PA but have it direct to InEars.

[johnatanasoff]

As i am now deciding buying digital or tube.


Can you split 2 signals, micing a head or combo to PA but have it direct to InEars? How to do this?

The reason is, mic'd, my guitar sound on the InEars was weaker and more dull. Specially with distortion. Plus notes sometimes sounded a few micro cents sharper or flat.

With digital unless i use a mic'd cab i won't have loss of signal and other problems mentioned.

[Leo_Gnardo]

I don't see what's "split". If you prefer the direct-out sound of your guitar preamp/fx/amp rig in your ear monitor, no reason why not. What goes to the rest of the band and audience, that's up to you, your band, & FOH mixer person. Heck you might skip speakers entirely, save some hassle and expense, might even make your FOH mix person unbelievably happy - he'll never have to complain "your amp's too loud."

[The Dude]

Try different mics and mic positions to correct for the dull/weak sound. As to pitch, unless there is pitch correction/shifting inserted in your signal chain, there is nothing that would make "notes sometimes sound.. a few micro cents sharper or flat". If there is such a device in your chain, changing from a tube to digital source won't make any difference.

[johnatanasoff]

I don't see what's "split". If you prefer the direct-out sound of your guitar preamp/fx/amp rig in your ear monitor, no reason why not. What goes to the rest of the band and audience, that's up to you, your band, & FOH mixer person. Heck you might skip speakers entirely, save some hassle and expense, might even make your FOH mix person unbelievably happy - he'll never have to complain "your amp's too loud."

By spliting i mean direct from guitar amp to InEars, but mic'ed to PA!

We tried doing that with one member of the band. We're not knowleageable and that's a given lol.
We connected to the input on the back of the amp but that disabled the speaker. So we thought it had to be done by micing; both to InEars and PA.
We were using an old laney SS combo.

I am not in the band now, but will hook up in another soon, so i am preparing in advance.

How do you do it?

[johnatanasoff]

Try different mics and mic positions to correct for the dull/weak sound. As to pitch, unless there is pitch correction/shifting inserted in your signal chain, there is nothing that would make "notes sometimes sound.. a few micro cents sharper or flat". If there is such a device in your chain, changing from a tube to digital source won't make any difference.

We used a Sure SM57. There was no correction/shifting in the chain. The InEars were crap and cheap and the Boss GT6, old. That could've add to the problem.
Mic needs plenty of pressure to capture a powerfull sound but would be too loud for small stages. That's why if i end up with an AX8 i won't have this issue as i won't mic it.

[Leo_Gnardo]

How do you do it?

So far, by micing the guitar speaker. If there's a sufficient monitor system, send the guitar speaker signal to the guitarist's monitor wedge or in-ear depending which is in use. So far nobody's complained about a perception of pitch inaccuracy. But complaints about the lead guitar being too loud persist. Some solutions to that have been tried with varying levels of acceptablity, both using a tiny power guitar amp (5 watts) and/or placing guitar speaker off stage contained in an isolation box.

[johnatanasoff]

So far, by micing the guitar speaker. If there's a sufficient monitor system, send the guitar speaker signal to the guitarist's monitor wedge or in-ear depending which is in use. So far nobody's complained about a perception of pitch inaccuracy. But complaints about the lead guitar being too loud persist. Some solutions to that have been tried with varying levels of acceptablity, both using a tiny power guitar amp (5 watts) and/or placing guitar speaker off stage contained in an isolation box.

Putting the cab loud in the back off stage is what i thought if i mic the speaker to get better distortion and no sense of pitch inaccuracy (yes i've expererienced it), in the InEars.