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  • #16
    It no longer matters, as i decided to leave the choke for a couple reasons. One is that i felt there was something in the attack that wasn't quite right and i felt like the big dropping resistors might be the cause. I recall preferring higher voltages in the preamp but if i recall but did the opposite at one point by using 18k at the 1st tube and 10k at the other 2 because marshalls used that value. (the 10k's, not the 18k) Like i said, theres a lot of leftover designs things from when it was a el34 amp. So i looked at some 6v6 designs and i think it was a deluxe that showed 4.7k resistors. So i paralleled the needed values to get them around 5k and there it was. It's just about perfect and i no longer feel the choke is causing a stiff feel. I don't know if those design changes you (Chuck) made and i implemented are no longer theoretically valid with the higher V, but it sure feels right now.

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    • #17
      By the way, is 2 watt oxides fine for the dropping resistors? I have 3w there now but i wanna replace the paralleled pairs with the proper value and theres some on ebay for $3 shipped while all 3w ones are more then twice that.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by catalin gramada View Post
        There is no too much reason for sag,or substantial one,as time the current draw after plate supply is pretty consistent. You may try a simply sense diode after the plates supply cap, between plate cap and screens cap nodes if you screens current is limited .
        Average screen current increases by a factor of 3 to 6 (probably more with clipping) at full output.
        Typical full power signal screen current is around 20mA per tube for an EL34 or a 6L6.

        Peak screen current is even higher by maybe a factor of 2. That's why screen resistors are so effective lowering dynamic screen dissipation.
        Of course the B+ sag also lowers screen voltage.

        What is a sense diode?
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        • #19
          Originally posted by daz View Post
          By the way, is 2 watt oxides fine for the dropping resistors? I have 3w there now but i wanna replace the paralleled pairs with the proper value and theres some on ebay for $3 shipped while all 3w ones are more then twice that.
          2W should be fine. That's still a generously high rating for preamp dropping resistors.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by Helmholtz View Post

            Average screen current increases by a factor of 3 to 6 (probably more with clipping) at full output.
            Typical full power signal screen current is around 20mA per tube for an EL34 or a 6L6.

            Peak screen current is even higher by maybe a factor of 2. That's why screen resistors are so effective lowering dynamic screen dissipation.
            Of course the B+ sag also lowers screen voltage.

            What is a sense diode?
            He should be able to make a simple string series of zenners to stabilize the voltage for such of current it need.
            "If it measures good and sounds bad, it is bad. If it measures bad and sounds good, you are measuring the wrong things."

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